94 Million set aside for cycling

Yep I get your drift but the money is a piddling amount in healthcare terms and we need to reduce the cycling death rate to help Mums and Dads unwrap their little darlings and get them outside. If they carry on with the current trend they'll all be type 2 diabetic and dying of obesity related diseases before their parents.

The NHS like a few other institutions (MOD for instance) need to be removed from the hands of the politicians who live on 5 year cycle (no pun intended) with one eye on the latest poll and one on the cushty jobs lined up for when they finally get voted out.

As I said - on and on and on....

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Well the new routes are in certain cities, and although Dartmoor is apparently getting something it means nothing for my town.

It's like public transport in rural areas, they tell you to get out of the car and use the bus....but the service just isn't there. This is the same, people can't cycle in rural areas in the same way as cities.

And let's not forget....the Government don't want you to - think of the fuel duty they will lose!

It is good investment really, but like Tim, I wonder if it could be used more wisely in the current climate.

I work for the NHS and my job is at risk. And I am fat. Save loads of money by sacking me! The NHS wastes so much money in procurement!

If I lose my job Due to cut backs, I hope I don't begrudge someone in a big city having a new cycle lane.
 
Why not spend the money enforcing cyclists wearing helmets...that would help reduce deaths.
 
Stuart Truman said:
The Dutch have taken it too far. I'm told that if you have a collision with a cyclist it's your fault regardless of the circumstances (as told to me be a Dutch friend, so no clue if it's totally factual)

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Not completely, but there will be a percentage of guilt no matter what the cyclist did.

I was brought up in that environment (yes, my bike was stolen as well), and I learned to drive in the cycle cities but I have no idea who people from abroad can drive in NL safely with the odd rules of give way to the right (including to bikes ....).
 
Cycling is now massive in this country and I am going to have to eat my words and join them. Even got invited to a corporate cycle day. Forget golf! Just need to lose a bit of puppy fat round the belly to get into the lycra.
 
TitanTim said:
....I think the idea of cycling reducing the strain on resources is a fine idea but again a little pie in the sky unless the Govt takes measures to force people out of their cars.
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It's already happening in places like my home town Cambridge where cycling plays a big part in transport and where students attending the University are not allowed to have a car in term time and the LA have discouraged cars from the central area of the City by introducing a £26 per day parking charge.
Incidentally this one of the Cities that will continue to benefit from the £94 million government hand out. :wink:
 
Lillywhite said:
students attending the University are not allowed to have a car in term time and the LA have discouraged cars from the central area of the City by introducing a £26 per day parking charge.
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Nothing like taking away peoples freedom of choice eh :cry:

Tim.
 
Money Well Spent. :thumbsup: Didn't buy a car untill I was 27. Mrs G and I used to cycle down to ASDA every week and fill up the paniers.

Still got the same bike and still ride it occasionaly. Not to work though too many hills around here at my tender age. :o
 
Lillywhite said:
TitanTim said:
....I think the idea of cycling reducing the strain on resources is a fine idea but again a little pie in the sky unless the Govt takes measures to force people out of their cars.
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It's already happening in places like my home town Cambridge where cycling plays a big part in transport and where students attending the University are not allowed to have a car in term time and the LA have discouraged cars from the central area of the City by introducing a £26 per day parking charge.
Incidentally this one of the Cities that will continue to benefit from the £94 million government hand out. :wink:
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That's only because the vast majority of the city centre is owned by the Colleges and you know how eccentric academics can be! :)
 
If the Gov't gave me a free BMW carbon push bike I might consider it :thumbsup:

I can wash it, mod it and stick in the garage over winter :)

Tim.
 
kevinmarkwhite said:
Why not spend the money enforcing cyclists wearing helmets...that would help reduce deaths.
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What a load of bollocks. When they introduced compulsory helmets in Queensland the numbers of people cycling reduced.
If you take your argument to the logical conclusion helmets should be made compulsory for pedestrians and car drivers.
A cycling helmet is only designed for low speed impact and will not save anyone being in collision with a motor vehicle.
I always wear a cycling helmet when I'm on a bike, to minimise any possible injury if I was to fall off a bike, but I'm under no illusion that it would save my life in the event of a serious collision with a car.
 
kevinmarkwhite said:
Why not spend the money enforcing cyclists wearing helmets...that would help reduce deaths.
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Yep had this discussion with a friend who is an A&E consultant after I crashed on my bike at weekend (not hurt thank goodness).
Have always worn a helmet and thought spot fines should be imposed for those that don't. I always felt a helmet has prevented a few racing crashes from being worse and certainly those without them have seemed to need more ambulances.
However it seems there was an article in the lancet disproving the effectiveness of helmets after a meta-analysis of cycle related injuries
It begs the question- do pros wear helmets for protection or to act as more advertising/promo space?


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TitanTim said:
Nothing like taking away peoples freedom of choice eh :cry:
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Nothing to do with a freedom of choice, that's always been the rules of the University. Students don't need a car while at a university and they have managed for years by getting around on foot or by bike. If they're not prepared to accept that then they can always study elsewhere as there is never a shortage of people willing to study in Cambridge.
 
GregZ4 said:
It begs the question- do pros wear helmets for protection or to act as more advertising/promo space?
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Pros and even amateur cyclists wear a helmet because they were enforced by the UCI.
 
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