94 Million set aside for cycling

[TitanTim]

Surely it doesn't matter what type of accident you have as a cyclist, wearing a helmet must be better than nothing. Having said that when I was kid on me Raleigh Chopper we never gave such things an instant thought, you crashed, went into A&E, got stitched up and back on me chopper ready for the next crash

Tim.

 

[TitanTim]

Nothing like taking away peoples freedom of choice eh

Nothing to do with a freedom of choice, that's always been the rules of the University. Students don't need a car while at a university and they have managed for years by getting around on foot or by bike. If they're not prepared to accept that then they can always study elsewhere as there is never a shortage of people willing to study in Cambridge.

I rejected Cambridge for Brum, they allow cars there, spent 4 years driving back and forth 50 miles, glad I didn't do that on me push bike

Tim.

 

[Rialas]

London 2030
:lol:

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[GregZ4]

Except when I crashed on mine I fractured my skull and spent a month in hospital.
Not sure a helmet would've helped then but I've worn something for the next 34 years and smashed a few of them...

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[Lillywhite]

Surely it doesn't matter what type of accident you have as a cyclist, wearing a helmet must be better than nothing.

Plenty of studies have been done on the effectiveness of cycling helmets. As I've said I chose to wear one but no way should they be made compulsory and this is the view of many cyclists.

http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1013.html

 

[TitanTim]

London 2030
:lol:

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Cyclists.......don't know the're born today

Tim.

 

[Anonymous]

Why not spend the money enforcing cyclists wearing helmets...that would help reduce deaths.

What a load of bollocks. When they introduced compulsory helmets in Queensland the numbers of people cycling reduced.
If you take your argument to the logical conclusion helmets should be made compulsory for pedestrians and car drivers.
A cycling helmet is only designed for low speed impact and will not save anyone being in collision with a motor vehicle.
I always wear a cycling helmet when I'm on a bike, to minimise any possible injury if I was to fall off a bike, but I'm under no illusion that it would save my life in the event of a serious collision with a car.

Bollocks is it?

True, it won't stop your legs being crushed, and it won't make you infallible, but if I got knocked off a bike and my head was heading to the road, then I'd be glad I had tried to help myself with a helmet.

And ok, it may or may not stop deaths, but its gotta help, that's just common sense.

 

[GregZ4]

It begs the question- do pros wear helmets for protection or to act as more advertising/promo space?

Pros and even amateur cyclists wear a helmet because they were enforced by the UCI.

Also now enforced by my club after a spate of chain gang crashes.
No helmet = no club ride!
Was just interested that even the medics in the field of putting us back together are split over the benefits.

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[Anonymous]

It begs the question- do pros wear helmets for protection or to act as more advertising/promo space?

Pros and even amateur cyclists wear a helmet because they were enforced by the UCI.

Also now enforced by my club after a spate of chain gang crashes.
No helmet = no club ride!
Was just interested that even the medics in the field of putting us back together are split over the benefits.

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Surely though, any protection is better than none? It will only help against certain things.

Was the medic a cyclist?

 

[GregZ4]

London 2030
:lol:

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Cyclists.......don't know the're born today

Tim.

Wished I'd been in that tweed after going through a hedge full of nettles at 38mph after losing it on a bend on Saturday. Lycra did nothing and still tingling now!

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[GregZ4]

Pros and even amateur cyclists wear a helmet because they were enforced by the UCI.

Also now enforced by my club after a spate of chain gang crashes.
No helmet = no club ride!
Was just interested that even the medics in the field of putting us back together are split over the benefits.

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Surely though, any protection is better than none? It will only help against certain things.

Was the medic a cyclist?

No but he does see a few of us in a working week, although we're not all MAMILs

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[Lillywhite]

Also now enforced by my club after a spate of chain gang crashes.
No helmet = no club ride!
Was just interested that even the medics in the field of putting us back together are split over the benefits.

Makes sense from your club's point of view on organised club rides however no medic can ever say with certainty that such and such's life was saved because he had been wearing a helmet no more than an individual can say his life was saved because he was wearing a helmet.

 

[TitanTim]

They didn't have problems like that on Penny Farthings, you didn't go through hedges, you went over the top Probably did'nt do your gentlemens region much good in the process :?

Tim.

 

[GregZ4]

They didn't have problems like that on Penny Farthings, you didn't go through hedges, you went over the top Probably did'nt do your gentlemens region much good in the process :?

Tim.

As in the old joke I'm halfway there as it's now turned black
Injury free but my poor trusty summer trainer is at the bicycle hospital.......

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[Lillywhite]

Currently there are in the region 110-140 cyclists killed a year. Far too many but to put this into perspective the greatest number of cyclists killed in a year peaked in 1935 IIRC when approaching 3000 cyclists were killed and remember there was far fewer motor vehicles on the road in pre-war days.

 

[Sketchley]

£94 million isn't a lot. It would probably pay for all the lines on all the existing cycle path to be repainted and maybe some Tarmac.

How much is spent on footpaths, pavements, underpasses, footbridges and pedestrian crossings? Bloody pedestrians they should be taxed to pay for these.....

 

[dr_john]

Will this include their own traffic light system?

As they don't use the current ones...

Best, and most significant comment in the whole thread.

It really p!sses me off to see the Lycra clad hordes flagrantly disregarding the rules of the road that everyone else abides by.

 

[IK.]

The NHS could save billions if everyone wasn't so fat and didn't smoke.

This man speaks sense.

A lot has been said in this thread, including ironically about the NHS... Ever heard of a little thing called 'public health'? We are meant to be trying to prevent people ending up in hospital in the first place. Rewarding failing trusts with more money is stupidity (though it does happen - just look at A&E recently).

 

[TitanTim]

The NHS could save billions if everyone wasn't so fat and didn't smoke.

This man speaks sense.

A lot has been said in this thread, including ironically about the NHS... Ever hear a little thing called 'public health'? We are meant to be trying to prevent people ending up in hospital in the first place. Rewarding failing trusts with more money is stupidity (though it does happen - just look at A&E recently).

But isn't that what this country is about, freedom of choice, if you want to smoke, eat yourself silly, drink yourself to death, cycle or drive to work its the individuals free choice right or wrongly. Its just a shame many dont act responsibly. There are also many who through no fault of their own rely on the NHS and being failed through lack of investment.

Tim.

 

[Rialas]

You have to be brave to be a commuting cyclist in London. I wouldn't want my kids doing it, and certainly not without helmets.