GuidoK said:
I don't see how all the patent bitching on quaife is relevant.
The patents they hold and have hold are obviously checked by the patent registration authorities, you don't 'just get' a patent.
The patents they hold are obviously about different mechanical details compared with the original gleason design. Otherwise you dont get the patent. That's what a patent is about, and that's why it's expensive. All the checking that has to be done to see if it infringes in other patents.
And apparently it didn't. (internet or not)
Are they important to the customer?
Not at all!
The only thing important to the customer is the product. How and why the product is what it is is only important for the manufacturer and it's competitors.
Anyway we have been living in the internet age for almost 2 decades now so anyone can search for patents held by quaife, or expired patents once hold by quaife, so anyone can make up their minds about that for a long time now.
I don't see that post as a positive advertisement for mfactory at all. It lacks objectivity.
Too bad that they didn't include virtues like 'quality' or 'service', 'warranty' etc etc in their '4 things when choosing a Torque Biasing LSD'.
The only relevant of the four he was able to mention imho was 'Value for money'. The rest was tainted with primitive emotions.
So it should be (which diff to get)
-application
-availability
-quality
-price
-warranty
-service
And maybe some others.
If I brag about 'my quaife' in a bar, everybody will look at me like I'm some kind of idiot and go about their business. And maybe one will ask who is quaife? the rest won't care...
First of all, my post wasn't an "advertisement", far from it. I'm not a sponsor on here, so I cannot advertise on here. It was simply a post to clarify between the 3 main types of Torque Biasing differentials, which I believe I have done. No objectivity at all, as it was not needed simply because my post was NOT an advertisement promoting any LSD over another.
Second, there was no patent bitching. When supporters of a particular brand "support" their brand, they almost always mention the "patent" thing as if it's the determining factor in quality and/or originality, which is far from the truth. Quaife's patent on the ATB was for their 6pcs of cone washers and was for Europe Only. When they applied for their patent, there were no other Torque Biasing differentials being manufactured in Europe, as Gleason in the US were the only ones. Every wondered why Quaife never took out a patent in North America? You already answered that question in your reply. Also, patents aren't expensive. You could easily apply for a patent and only be out a few thousand dollars. As for the internet thing, unless you were military (as that is what the internet was originally designed for), I don't think you could search online for patents back in the 80's nor early 90's.
As for your "virtues", these were all included; if you were to read through again, you will see I mention which has the better quality, better warranty, guarantee etc. Again, NOT an advertisement, so there is only so far I can go in my post without getting warned/banned, hence why I never posted up about pricing etc
And at the end of the post, I even mention which type of LSD would be better for what type of application.
Of course, I could post up a comprehensive list with tally points detailing everything you require in your "list", but again, that would be deemed as advertising (my username doesn't exactly hide my relationship with one of the LSD manufacturers), so I never done that.
Instead, as mentioned, I just posted up to "inform" people about the 3 main types of Torque Biasing differentials. No advertisement, no hard sell. Just facts with a little bit of light humour thrown in (hence the Bragging rights bit in my list).
I know you are a Quaife user, but please, relax. No one is saying your LSD is inferior; in contrary, I highly rate the Quaife, just like I highly rate the Wavetrac. A consumer could own any of the above mentioned differentials and will be happy.
Maybe I should make a new username to post up with, so people don't think I'm "advertising" and bashing on other companies? But then people will probably start saying I'm hiding behind an alternate identity etc etc and will still get flamed for it....can't win either way, can you?........