I have done a little reading around the fuel pump recall on the 35i. Just for clarity from what I understand there is very little chance of the offending pump being replaced as part of the recall....although his did appear to happen in the USA.
35i HPFP recall
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What is the rough cost of having that replaced Mr Bear 
Big Bad Boris said:What is the rough cost of having that replaced Mr Bear
ML Performance stock the part for £919, might be able to get it cheaper elsewhere. IE BMW Cotswold.
Would imagine the labour cost will be extortionate at a dealer as usual. Lots of guides over at E90 post if you feel up to the job your self, seems to be a 6 to 8 hour DIY.
More like 6 to 8 days for me :scratchhead:
So it likely in the region of £1500?
So it likely in the region of £1500?
It never ceases to amaze me how car owners in the US can identify a problem and convince (force) the manufacturer to recall/fix the offending item or extend the warranty on it, while at the same time the same company in other countries can look you straight in the eye and say 'what problem?' or 'we don't recognise that issue as significant enough to replace/fix at our cost'.
I saw the exact same thing happen when we had a Suzuki SX4 - there was a known fault with the passenger seat occupancy mat that triggered an airbag warning light on the dash (which of course only a dealer could reset). Suzuki USA replaced the mat for free, Suzuki everywhere else denied knowledge of the issue and charged for any repair/replacement action.
You wonder if some of them can lie straight in bed at night.
I saw the exact same thing happen when we had a Suzuki SX4 - there was a known fault with the passenger seat occupancy mat that triggered an airbag warning light on the dash (which of course only a dealer could reset). Suzuki USA replaced the mat for free, Suzuki everywhere else denied knowledge of the issue and charged for any repair/replacement action.
You wonder if some of them can lie straight in bed at night.
Its because 'group action' in the US means hudreds of ambulance chasing lawyers putting in claims for compensation (we know what that means in US). Thankfully we dont live in a socoety that has more than one lawyer per head of population.
In some states they have a 'lemon law'. These blood sucking no jobs actually sit outside car showrooms and when a brand new car is collected/delivered they follow it to its destination then contact the owner offering to sue the garage if its not absolutely 'perfect'....
We are a lot better off paying for our HPFP than living in a culture like that....
In some states they have a 'lemon law'. These blood sucking no jobs actually sit outside car showrooms and when a brand new car is collected/delivered they follow it to its destination then contact the owner offering to sue the garage if its not absolutely 'perfect'....
We are a lot better off paying for our HPFP than living in a culture like that....
...Amen brother.
Is it possible that BMW managed to make one or two of these pumps properly that will actually last. I was talking to someone yesterday with an 80k miler, pump has never been changed (car has replacement injectors though). So is that pump about to blow...or will some of them go on and on?
Is it possible that BMW managed to make one or two of these pumps properly that will actually last. I was talking to someone yesterday with an 80k miler, pump has never been changed (car has replacement injectors though). So is that pump about to blow...or will some of them go on and on?
Call Darren woods and ask, they deal with a lot of N54s and will help you out.Big Bad Boris said:
Big Bad Boris said:
As far as I know they never updated HPFP. HPFP failures started on the 2007 335i, and continued to occur even on 2014 Z4 cars with the N54. Edit, apparently the HPFP was updated, but I can not find any documentation on this. Not every car is guaranteed to need a new HPFP, just like not every car will need new injectors. You can check if the fuel pump is healthy by downloading an app called MHD, and plugging in to the car via the OBD, you can then look at the fuel rail pressure, scan for shadow codes etc.
Edit: Also why the concern about the fuel pump specifically given the range of issues that can occur on these cars?
Edit: Here is a list of common faults on something like a 35is
Injectors (New index 12 are much better) Full set can be had new for circa £700 parts only.
High Pressure Fuel Pump (£900 parts only)
Oil Filter Housing Gasket
Valve Cover Gasket
Valve Cover (Cracking) (£400 parts only, garbage plastic with weak casting from BMW, even on the replacement)
Turbo Wastegates
AC Pulley
Worn Engine Mounts
Adaptive Suspension Leaks (£750 per shock parts only)
DCT Oil Weeps / Leaks
19 Inch BMW Alloys Cracking
I'm not a fan of an overly litigious society, but neither am I a fan of dealers and manufacturers who will do whatever it takes to avoid responsibility for poorly designed or flawed products unless forced to, knowing full well most people don't have the financial resources to fight them. If there was no fault or issue, then the 'bloodsucking no jobs' would not be able to effect a recall or remediation. I'm not talking about a thread pulled on a boot carpet, or a fingerprint smudge on the rear view mirror, but serious/expensive faults that should never have made it into production, or should have been recalled once identified.mcbutler said:
And despite it probably seeming like there's a lawyer on every street corner in the US, I don't think there are 328,000,000 of them :lol: .
I don't want to live in a society you described, but I would like to live in one where BMW acknowledges a clearly poor design and replaces it in good faith, regardless of what country you purchased it in. Naive? Probably.
sunnydays said:
The “concern about the fuel pump specifically” grew out of other threads where injectors and HPFP are referenced as common failure points and the two key items that must be resolved on any example before buying . As you have pointed out there is plenty of other stuff that seems to be prone to failure on this model.
As previously stated I have noticed quite a few 35i examples dropping into my price bracket, hence digging bit deeper into their key issues. I had settled on a 30i, but the pricing of the 35i’s made me think again.
Now I am fairly quickly coming to the conclusion that so many parts of these cars were so badly made by BMW they are best avoided. Probably explains the comment about them dropping into my price bracket.
Budget is around £12k.
To warranty the car would it have to come from the BMW network?
Big Bad Boris said:
Not as far as I’m aware. I bought privately from here and could have taken out a BMW warranty. Mines a 23i so I decided against after seeking advice on here as it was pointed out on my car a lot of the high ticket items you’re getting quoted don’t really apply to my specific model and I’d be as well sticking the equivalent warranty money in the bank which is what I did.
On a 35i it’d probably be one of the first things I’d purchase after getting it. A 30i probably the same tactic as current one
If you buy a 35i and dont buy a used car warranty you are frankly asking for trouble. I have a warranty direct policy on my 35i, it cost me £1100 for 3 years cover. Everything on the car is covered excepting tyres/brake pads and the like. They are currently paying for my new DCT sump pan, filter kit, new oil, labour and pressure filter kit, my excess is £50.
Its a no brainer
Its a no brainer