35i HPFP recall

[Big Bad Boris]

OK thanks Mcbutler. Please can you clarify how would that work, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

 

[scootr]

Its because 'group action' in the US means hudreds of ambulance chasing lawyers putting in claims for compensation (we know what that means in US). Thankfully we dont live in a socoety that has more than one lawyer per head of population.
In some states they have a 'lemon law'. These blood sucking no jobs actually sit outside car showrooms and when a brand new car is collected/delivered they follow it to its destination then contact the owner offering to sue the garage if its not absolutely 'perfect'....
We are a lot better off paying for our HPFP than living in a culture like that....

I'm not a fan of an overly litigious society, but neither am I a fan of dealers and manufacturers who will do whatever it takes to avoid responsibility for poorly designed or flawed products unless forced to, knowing full well most people don't have the financial resources to fight them. If there was no fault or issue, then the 'bloodsucking no jobs' would not be able to effect a recall or remediation. I'm not talking about a thread pulled on a boot carpet, or a fingerprint smudge on the rear view mirror, but serious/expensive faults that should never have made it into production, or should have been recalled once identified.
And despite it probably seeming like there's a lawyer on every street corner in the US, I don't think there are 328,000,000 of them :lol: .
I don't want to live in a society you described, but I would like to live in one where BMW acknowledges a clearly poor design and replaces it in good faith, regardless of what country you purchased it in. Naive? Probably.

Well said enzend.
Two things that effect global recalls are 1 there is no globally accepted safety standards and 2 no global govt enforcement of safety. Once a problem is identified the manufacture has to be made to fix it. Another aspect is that the same parts are not always used in the same model globally. So a recall in NA may not effect cars in the Europe.
Some countries have strict safety regulations and a clear process that automakers must follow when they learn about a defect.
The US forced automakers to replace the deadly airbag canister (used by Toyota, BMW, Audi, Honda and Mitsubishi and more) 6 years ahead of the rest of the world. Is that such a bad way to live - lol
Globally safety runs the gamut. In Europe and Japan, cars are rigorously tested before they go on sale. In the U.S., automakers self-certify and cars are tested only after they go on sale. In Mexico and India, cars don't have to meet any government safety standards at all. Not sure what the UK is doing.

 

[Big Bad Boris]

Can anybody help with my warranty question above please.

 

[step_change]

Mine was replaced on my car under BMW extended warranty by Keith, the previous owner.

Would not dream of owning a complex BMW without an extended warranty and when said warranty gets OTT expensive, off the car goes to someone better at car DIY than I am.

 

[Big Bad Boris]

Please can somebody clarify how warranty eligibility works, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

 

[Smartbear]

Please can somebody clarify how warranty eligibility works, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

It’s probably safest to contact the warranty co you’re going to use & asking them, just in case they’ve changed the small print since others have purchased.
You can’t go wrong then
Rob

 

[Big Bad Boris]

Thanks Rob, I have not been down the warranty route before, hence not realising it is simpler than I thought.

I have looked at a couple of sites to do some research, are there any other beyond Warranty Direct and Warranty Wise that are worth a look?

 

[Smartbear]

Thanks Rob, I have not been down the warranty route before, hence not realising it is simpler than I thought.

I have looked at a couple of sites to do some research, are there any other beyond Warranty Direct and Warranty Wise that are worth a look?

How about the bmw one? :?
Rob

 

[mcbutler]

OK thanks Mcbutler. Please can you clarify how would that work, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

You go to the warranty direct website and have a look, the terms are clear and easy to understand, the cover is excellent (better than BMW warranty) the service is excellent also.
All I am required to do is keep it serviced (who wouldnt) & keep it mot'd. Their are caveats on mileage of course if its really high. Like I said I have been a customer for years, cannot fault them.

 

[mcbutler]

Its because 'group action' in the US means hudreds of ambulance chasing lawyers putting in claims for compensation (we know what that means in US). Thankfully we dont live in a socoety that has more than one lawyer per head of population.
In some states they have a 'lemon law'. These blood sucking no jobs actually sit outside car showrooms and when a brand new car is collected/delivered they follow it to its destination then contact the owner offering to sue the garage if its not absolutely 'perfect'....
We are a lot better off paying for our HPFP than living in a culture like that....

I'm not a fan of an overly litigious society, but neither am I a fan of dealers and manufacturers who will do whatever it takes to avoid responsibility for poorly designed or flawed products unless forced to, knowing full well most people don't have the financial resources to fight them. If there was no fault or issue, then the 'bloodsucking no jobs' would not be able to effect a recall or remediation. I'm not talking about a thread pulled on a boot carpet, or a fingerprint smudge on the rear view mirror, but serious/expensive faults that should never have made it into production, or should have been recalled once identified.
And despite it probably seeming like there's a lawyer on every street corner in the US, I don't think there are 328,000,000 of them :lol: .
I don't want to live in a society you described, but I would like to live in one where BMW acknowledges a clearly poor design and replaces it in good faith, regardless of what country you purchased it in. Naive? Probably.

Well said enzend.
Two things that effect global recalls are 1 there is no globally accepted safety standards and 2 no global govt enforcement of safety. Once a problem is identified the manufacture has to be made to fix it. Another aspect is that the same parts are not always used in the same model globally. So a recall in NA may not effect cars in the Europe.
Some countries have strict safety regulations and a clear process that automakers must follow when they learn about a defect.
The US forced automakers to replace the deadly airbag canister (used by Toyota, BMW, Audi, Honda and Mitsubishi and more) 6 years ahead of the rest of the world. Is that such a bad way to live - lol
Globally safety runs the gamut. In Europe and Japan, cars are rigorously tested before they go on sale. In the U.S., automakers self-certify and cars are tested only after they go on sale. In Mexico and India, cars don't have to meet any government safety standards at all. Not sure what the UK is doing.

We have the same recall procedures here in UK, once an item is identified as unsafe a recall is issued, not sure if its mandatory to return your car at the time but it would be dne during servicing interval anyways.
Having co-owned a business in Houstom for several years i am unfortunately very familiar with the ambulance chasing legals, hence my earlier comments regarding them, oxygen thieveing wastes of skin......

 

[enzed4]

Having co-owned a business in Houstom for several years i am unfortunately very familiar with the ambulance chasing legals, hence my earlier comments regarding them, oxygen thieveing wastes of skin......

Fair enough, I didn't realise you were speaking from personal experience, hence the 'tone' :wink:

 

[scootr]

I'm not a fan of an overly litigious society, but neither am I a fan of dealers and manufacturers who will do whatever it takes to avoid responsibility for poorly designed or flawed products unless forced to, knowing full well most people don't have the financial resources to fight them. If there was no fault or issue, then the 'bloodsucking no jobs' would not be able to effect a recall or remediation. I'm not talking about a thread pulled on a boot carpet, or a fingerprint smudge on the rear view mirror, but serious/expensive faults that should never have made it into production, or should have been recalled once identified.
And despite it probably seeming like there's a lawyer on every street corner in the US, I don't think there are 328,000,000 of them :lol: .
I don't want to live in a society you described, but I would like to live in one where BMW acknowledges a clearly poor design and replaces it in good faith, regardless of what country you purchased it in. Naive? Probably.

Well said enzend.
Two things that effect global recalls are 1 there is no globally accepted safety standards and 2 no global govt enforcement of safety. Once a problem is identified the manufacture has to be made to fix it. Another aspect is that the same parts are not always used in the same model globally. So a recall in NA may not effect cars in the Europe.
Some countries have strict safety regulations and a clear process that automakers must follow when they learn about a defect.
The US forced automakers to replace the deadly airbag canister (used by Toyota, BMW, Audi, Honda and Mitsubishi and more) 6 years ahead of the rest of the world. Is that such a bad way to live - lol
Globally safety runs the gamut. In Europe and Japan, cars are rigorously tested before they go on sale. In the U.S., automakers self-certify and cars are tested only after they go on sale. In Mexico and India, cars don't have to meet any government safety standards at all. Not sure what the UK is doing.

We have the same recall procedures here in UK, once an item is identified as unsafe a recall is issued, not sure if its mandatory to return your car at the time but it would be dne during servicing interval anyways.
Having co-owned a business in Houstom for several years i am unfortunately very familiar with the ambulance chasing legals, hence my earlier comments regarding them, oxygen thieveing wastes of skin......

Sorry to hear you had so much trouble in business. Wife and I have bought 15-20 new cars and never had a lawyer follow us home or contact us about the ownership or purchase.
We have had some recall issues which the dealers promptly took in for retrofit. Some deadly or environmental recalls are tied to registration now so they must be addressed before the auto can continue to operate the following year.
Luckily no recalls on me Zed

 

[Big Bad Boris]

OK thanks Mcbutler. Please can you clarify how would that work, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

You go to the warranty direct website and have a look, the terms are clear and easy to understand, the cover is excellent (better than BMW warranty) the service is excellent also.
All I am required to do is keep it serviced (who wouldnt) & keep it mot'd. Their are caveats on mileage of course if its really high. Like I said I have been a customer for years, cannot fault them.

Thanks once again. As 35i owner and seasoned warranty user, which options do you deem necessary to cover the key and most likely faults. Obviously none of us a clairvoyant, but ticking all the add on options racks up a pretty hefty bill from the off !

 

[Argyll Andy]

OK thanks Mcbutler. Please can you clarify how would that work, would you need to get the service records from the seller to ensure it qualifies first. Otherwise, there is a risk you buy the car...and then they say yours doesn’t meet the criteria and you are lumbered.

You go to the warranty direct website and have a look, the terms are clear and easy to understand, the cover is excellent (better than BMW warranty) the service is excellent also.
All I am required to do is keep it serviced (who wouldnt) & keep it mot'd. Their are caveats on mileage of course if its really high. Like I said I have been a customer for years, cannot fault them.

Thanks once again. As 35i owner and seasoned warranty user, which options do you deem necessary to cover the key and most likely faults. Obviously none of us a clairvoyant, but ticking all the add on options racks up a pretty hefty bill from the off !

I priced this one too after Mcbutler recommended when I queried. I think I had to register for a quote and when I didn't buy I then got various emails from them offering 10-25% discount over the next 3-14 days I think. Now still get them randomly so might be cheaper than quotes you’re seeing.

You’re also getting £51 cash back buying through Quidco just now but obviously don’t know if that’ll be available when you purchase.

On the BMW one when I phoned them they just asked mileage, if the car was serviced as per scheduled and if I knew of any existing problems.

 

[Zikim]

If you buy a 35i and dont buy a used car warranty you are frankly asking for trouble. I have a warranty direct policy on my 35i, it cost me £1100 for 3 years cover. Everything on the car is covered excepting tyres/brake pads and the like. They are currently paying for my new DCT sump pan, filter kit, new oil, labour and pressure filter kit, my excess is £50.
Its a no brainer

Don't discount BMW Warranty.

I was quoted £1,700 by Warranty Direct for full comprehensive cover - the same cover through BMW warranty would be £750. My 35i has covered 92k miles.

Driveline only cover with BMW warranty is £350 with £250 excess, the same cover with Warranty Direct would cost £953

mcbutler how is your quote for cover with Warranty Direct so cheap - do you work for them?

 

[mcbutler]

If you buy a 35i and dont buy a used car warranty you are frankly asking for trouble. I have a warranty direct policy on my 35i, it cost me £1100 for 3 years cover. Everything on the car is covered excepting tyres/brake pads and the like. They are currently paying for my new DCT sump pan, filter kit, new oil, labour and pressure filter kit, my excess is £50.
Its a no brainer

Don't discount BMW Warranty.

I was quoted £1,700 by Warranty Direct for full comprehensive cover - the same cover through BMW warranty would be £750. My 35i has covered 92k miles.

Driveline only cover with BMW warranty is £350 with £250 excess, the same cover with Warranty Direct would cost £953

mcbutler how is your quote for cover with Warranty Direct so cheap - do you work for them?

Hah, no i dont work for them, I am a property developer/residential landlord.
Yes it is really affordable, actually more then my 23i cost me!
Mileage is a huge factor of course, my car was on 24000 miles when i took it out, it will break the 30k mark when I driver her today :-(
The big plus with WD is the extent of cover, anything that fails catastrophically and related damage, anything wearing out i.e ticking lifters and any MOT fail item (not tyres and the like of course).