30i v 28i

It’s always difficult trying to predict the market, but I would think that once things start to get back to normal then prices will pick up, especially if it’s before the Summer starts, personally I would say now is a good time to buy as there is still a little uncertainty as to actually when things will get better.
 
I read somewhere, on Honest John I think it was that prices will not drop both for new cars and second hand ones too. Honest John reckons prices will firm up or even go up a bit but who really knows only time will tell.
 
Just wait!
There’s no panic to buy as there’s no place to go to in the car. I would spend the time and looking at what your money buys for when restrictions are eventually lifted - if a car costs you an extra few quid dont worry - depreciation over the ensuing years will mask it!

The bottom line is make sure you get the car that gives you the “wow “ factor :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
With the car being a vert, its probably more going to come down to the normal market peaks and troughs. So if you wait to the back end of summer you'll probably have more choice and better value but of course you'll be missing most of the opportunities to use it as BMW intended
 
I bought mine at the end of the production run Aug 16 - took delivery mid sept and had to hibernate it October- winter 16/17 was a long one!
(Not as Long as 2019/20 is proving to be)
 
Scratching the itch by enquiring about a car or two.

Received a reply on a vehicle that has full service history, but when checking the detail it seemed there was nothing until 28,000 miles which seemed odd. So I questioned the dealer here is the response:

“We have the service from 28k the earlier services were BMW however we cannot get hold of the info due to data protection”.

I know data protection has muddied the waters a little, but is it correct that the car in question has lost a key part of his service history into BMWs computer system forever. In one way it’s good to know the car was cared for by BMW for the first 2-3 years of it’s life, but conversely the isn’t any proof of that.

Have you guys come across this before, is there a way of getting that early service data? Surely the dealer can get redacted copies of the info from BMW with anything sensitive items crossed out?
 
The key holds a lot of information and is read at a bmw dealer - has the service book not been stamped ?

Our other car is a 335 and it doesn’t have a service book- it’s history Is all on the iDrive - I do keep the invoices tho :thumbsup:
 
Big Bad Boris said:
The car in question has I drive, so would the “missing” info be in there?
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I don’t think there is much info on the z4 idrive it’s old software. A service book should have been stamped ?
 
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Big Bad Boris said:
The car in question has I drive, so would the “missing” info be in there?
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I don’t think there is much info on the z4 idrive it’s old software. A service book should have been stamped ?
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My 2012 car doesn't have a facility for this, as these cars are the last of the "E series" tech I wouldn't expect to find anything even on a really late example.
 
It seems from a bit of interweb surfing that the iDrive started tracking servicing from the 2014 year model year, so those above are correct.

However, an interesting development, the dealer said he double checked with BMW and they have no record of any early services in their system. So it would seem the car was a bit over 2 years old and had 28,000 on the clock before it saw its first service.

Since then it has had 4/5 non BMW services at regular intervals covering the additional 17,000 miles it has traveled since.

Question is, does that lack of early servicing constitute a major issue, or with today’s longer servicing intervals is not a big thing? For info the car is a 28i, so there are turbos and the like in the equation if that makes a difference.
 
BMW apply condition based servicing whereby generally speaking the service intervals should be around every 2 years or 20,000 miles if I remember correctly so in this case perhaps it's done a little more mileage then it should have done before the first service. As this was BMW's recommended servicing schedule you will be hard pressed to find any car that will have had services carried out every year or every 5 or 10k miles for the first few years of its life. BMW say those long intervals are ok but personally I think regular oil charges are extremely important especially on a turbo car.
 
Big Bad Boris said:
It seems from a bit of interweb surfing that the iDrive started tracking servicing from the 2014 year model year, so those above are correct.

However, an interesting development, the dealer said he double checked with BMW and they have no record of any early services in their system. So it would seem the car was a bit over 2 years old and had 28,000 on the clock before it saw its first service.

Since then it has had 4/5 non BMW services at regular intervals covering the additional 17,000 miles it has traveled since.

Question is, does that lack of early servicing constitute a major issue, or with today’s longer servicing intervals is not a big thing? For info the car is a 28i, so there are turbos and the like in the equation if that makes a difference.
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There are several reports of N20 engine owners going to those mileages..

The modern oils and the sophistication of the oil lubrication / management in the N20 tempted BMW to push the boat out...

The good news is that it looks like the engine subsequently was copiously serviced ..

BMW USA changed its view down to 10k miles and most people now suggest 5-6k miles or annually whichever comes first..

Short of stripping threads on oil drains/filters there is no concept of over servicing the oil change interval..
 

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Big Bad Boris said:
Question is, does that lack of early servicing constitute a major issue ? For info the car is a 28i, so there are turbos and the like in the equation if that makes a difference.
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Not being a pedant but in case you weren't aware you will only have the one turbo to worry about on the 4 cylinder .
 
Yes thank you kind sir. Being bored sometimes is a wonderful thing, hence I have recently read and learned the 28i has a twin scroll turbo, which led me to yet more reading and I more or less know what that is and roughly how it works.....what it is, is more expensive than a normal turbo if it gores wrong :D
 
The dealer has provided paperwork on the history since the initial 28,000 service I mentioned. Not a great deal to report. Several oil and filter changes, a replaced PDC unit, some diagnostic work in roof closure issue that’s about it apart from a reference to both rear wheels being cracked (fancy that) Nothing to show how and when this was remedied.

Car has had two owners, all the paperwork seems to be in the name of the 2nd owner. Now here is the dilemma, the paperwork the dealer sent shows the name address and telephone number of said (lady) owner. I am tempted to drop her a text to ask her for some feedback on the car (who better than the previous owner of 5 years) but (i) is it right for me to cold contact her out of the blue and (ii) if she takes umbrage at my cheek might I get the dealer in hot water under the data protection act, when they are just being helpful.
 
Big Bad Boris said:
The dealer has provided paperwork on the history since the initial 28,000 service I mentioned. Not a great deal to report. Several oil and filter changes, a replaced PDC unit, some diagnostic work in roof closure issue that’s about it apart from a reference to both rear wheels being cracked (fancy that) Nothing to show how and when this was remedied.

Car has had two owners, all the paperwork seems to be in the name of the 2nd owner. Now here is the dilemma, the paperwork the dealer sent shows the name address and telephone number of said (lady) owner. I am tempted to drop her a text to ask her for some feedback on the car (who better than the previous owner of 5 years) but (i) is it right for me to cold contact her out of the blue and (ii) if she takes umbrage at my cheek might I get the dealer in hot water under the data protection act, when they are just being helpful.
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The dealer shouldn’t have given her details, personally i wouldn’t contact her.
Rob
 
I think it would be very bad form to contact her. I’m with Rob I don’t think the garage should have supplied you with this information.
 
I sold my previous 3.0l as a trade in to a bmw main dealer - their buyer subsequently contacted the dealer with a question for me which I happily answered. At that same time I asked if he would pass on a load of history to the new owner but they they were reluctant to do so.

I still have the history in a loose leaf file and I’m reluctant to bin it.
 
Thanks chaps, I was wrestling with my conscience on this one, so handy to have to you boys to keep me on the straight and narrow 👍
 
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