30i Prices

mcbutler said:
MACK said:
mcbutler said:
EUROPE SALES, all variants https://carsalesbase.com/europe-bmw-z4/

2009 figures will include some E85's

2016 3.006
2015 4.093
2014 5.373
2013 5.970
2012 7.508
2011 9.417
2010 13.153
2009 13.497

Total 62,017

I wonder how E89 sales compared to the competition's over the same period.
Good question, interestingly UK sales were far higher than US sales!! I have asked DVLA if they will provide a number of 35i cars registered in the UK. See what they say, if anything..

Aren’t those figures for all European sales & not just uk ones? :?
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
mcbutler said:
MACK said:
I wonder how E89 sales compared to the competition's over the same period.
Good question, interestingly UK sales were far higher than US sales!! I have asked DVLA if they will provide a number of 35i cars registered in the UK. See what they say, if anything..

Aren’t those figures for all European sales & not just uk ones? :?
Rob

Not sure we can put to much credence in DVLA figures, I've seen it in the past with other models that trims etc can mess things up. For example the DVLA might report back with all the cars registered by a supplying dealer as "35i" but not the ones spelt "35I" or 35i M SPORT or MSPORT or any other differentiation/mis spelling combination that they may have on their system
 
I have talked to DVLA and made a FOI request for my specific car. I also asked them if designations lile S or SE etc make a difference. Lets see what they say. Either way if you are asking about your specific model then you will get an answer for your specific model. With regards to accuracy of the figures, its the best 'guess' you are going to get.
Imagine the police doing a search for example a red BMW Z4 2.0 involved in a hit and run the DVLA will return all BMW Z4 2.0, the officer does not have to know every variant of the vehicle in order to ensure an accurate report, I am quite sure of that.
 
Here’s a nice example, came on AT very recently. Sold quickly to a dealer on Sunday at £9,125, new advert already sitting alongside the original one, now at £11,500. Not sure it would be part of the dealers marketing strategy to have the old advert still there. Might have helped if they hadn’t got the mileage wrong and referred to it as a 23i in their write up. :oops:

7329E338-C9D5-44CA-868B-CC5CDE049306.png
 
I recently put a certain low mileage Mustang GT for sale locally. Within 1 minute a fella with a Arabic name emailed to say he was interested in buying the car. Within 5 minutes I had 5 fellas with Arabic names telling me they were cash buyers shopping for their brother who wanted my car. All of them wanting to come right now and pay less than the listed price... you guessed it- all of them owners of Mom and Pop type car dealers.
 
Big Bad Boris said:
Here’s a nice example, came on AT very recently. Sold quickly to a dealer on Sunday at £9,125, new advert already sitting alongside the original one, now at £11,500. Not sure it would be part of the dealers marketing strategy to have the old advert still there. Might have helped if they hadn’t got the mileage wrong and referred to it as a 23i in their write up. :oops:

7329E338-C9D5-44CA-868B-CC5CDE049306.png

I thought that was a nice looking car, even liking the 'brown' colour although I'm not sure how popular it would be come resale time. Be interesting to see if it sells quickly again.
 
Steve Page said:
Big Bad Boris said:
Here’s a nice example, came on AT very recently. Sold quickly to a dealer on Sunday at £9,125, new advert already sitting alongside the original one, now at £11,500. Not sure it would be part of the dealers marketing strategy to have the old advert still there. Might have helped if they hadn’t got the mileage wrong and referred to it as a 23i in their write up. :oops:

7329E338-C9D5-44CA-868B-CC5CDE049306.png

I thought that was a nice looking car, even liking the 'brown' colour although I'm not sure how popular it would be come resale time. Be interesting to see if it sells quickly again.

That brown on the Zed (I think it's called Havanna Brown) suits it pretty well and is quite a rare colour. I am quite sure it won't be a hindrance to a sale.
 
Silverstar said:
Steve Page said:
Big Bad Boris said:
Here’s a nice example, came on AT very recently. Sold quickly to a dealer on Sunday at £9,125, new advert already sitting alongside the original one, now at £11,500. Not sure it would be part of the dealers marketing strategy to have the old advert still there. Might have helped if they hadn’t got the mileage wrong and referred to it as a 23i in their write up. :oops:

7329E338-C9D5-44CA-868B-CC5CDE049306.png

I thought that was a nice looking car, even liking the 'brown' colour although I'm not sure how popular it would be come resale time. Be interesting to see if it sells quickly again.

That brown on the Zed (I think it's called Havanna Brown) suits it pretty well and is quite a rare colour. I am quite sure it won't be a hindrance to a sale.

[ref]Steve Page[/ref],

I’ve said it previously but it’d be a colour I’d choose if looking to change because I think it looks really classy and shows the lines of the car off perfectly. It’s very close to Seprang on the E85/86’s and they’re desirable rather than difficult to sell.

It goes particularly well with the cream interior and in my opinion the only one that carries of the wood facia finish

I can’t remember who posted this picture (apologies to whoever’s picture it is) on the forum but I saved the picture for reference :thumbsup:
 

Attachments

  • 53E05AAF-768F-4168-89FF-9F8DC2C88C63.jpeg
    53E05AAF-768F-4168-89FF-9F8DC2C88C63.jpeg
    420.3 KB · Views: 805
Yes that does look a lovely colour. If that car had been auto I'd probably have bought it especially at £9k. Even now £11.5k from a dealer isn't that outrageous. Tempted to ask them if their nationwide delivery would include bringing it over here to NI.
 
Steve Page said:
Yes that does look a lovely colour. If that car had been auto I'd probably have bought it especially at £9k. Even now £11.5k from a dealer isn't that outrageous. Tempted to ask them if their nationwide delivery would include bringing it over here to NI.

Steve, have you seen this one:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007101077164?postcode=ha03ee&aggregatedTrim=30i&year-to=2012&make=BMW&model=Z4&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&page=1

Looks like great spec colour combo and ultra low mileage. Price isn't too bad either all things considered.
 
Steve, have you seen this one:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007101077164?postcode=ha03ee&aggregatedTrim=30i&year-to=2012&make=BMW&model=Z4&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&page=1

Looks like great spec colour combo and ultra low mileage. Price isn't too bad either all things considered.

Yes I had but again it's manual not auto. I'm not a huge fan of the coral red interior either, but it does look very good and the price is good as you say.
 
Steve Page said:
Steve, have you seen this one:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007101077164?postcode=ha03ee&aggregatedTrim=30i&year-to=2012&make=BMW&model=Z4&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&page=1

Looks like great spec colour combo and ultra low mileage. Price isn't too bad either all things considered.

Yes I had but again it's manual not auto. I'm not a huge fan of the coral red interior either, but it does look very good and the price is good as you say.

That is strange I am pretty sure it was an automatic, it was certainly listed under automatics. Anyway looks like it's already sold!
 
I find this thread interesting and it seems to be replicated on other enthusiast forums. I am a member of NSXCB (the forum for Honda NSX) and about 7 years ago a range of members were bemoaning the fact that the NSX was increasing in price and their view was that it shouldn't. Indeed, they regularly used the forum to try and argue the prices down. This was when a car could be yours for £25k. But they were hankering for the days when the higher mile cars could be had for £15k. Now, of course, even the cheapest autos are around £40k and good cars are more often at £50-70k. And they sell. The issue of being unhappy about rising prices appears (unsurprisingly) to be those who haven't got one yet and they might have missed the boat (or are still catching the boat up). Those who bought at the right time will keep schtum, figuring that their cars might also have become an investment (even if they only maintain parity) and won't be unhappy at this development. For the new buyer, we will now start to see even more cars at cheaper prices as they fall into the hands of people who can't really afford therm and the maintenance cycle is broken and they become sheds. BMWs do this as do Jags/Mercs of course! So cheap ownership will be possible but at your peril perhaps. Conversely, low mileage cherished cars of the right spec (but not necessarily everything optioned) will command more money and will sell because people will realise that they can no longer get them like that. Three years ago, low miles 3.0i were relatively commonplace; now it is rare to see them below 50k miles. I am not selling my 2011 M Sport 3.0i auto but if I did I wouldn't take less than £14k. Mainly because i know you just can't find such sub-20,000 mile cars in good spec and in outstanding condition everyday. Having a 3.0i helps in this respect as they are relatively rare and the N52 engine is highly regarded. [Cue lots of anguish from the four cylinder and 3.5i/is mob] And that situation will only get worse for buyers unless, of course, the bottom falls out of the E89 market entirely. This is normal supply and demand at work. By the way, I just sold a motorbike (quite rare and sought after) and had no sensible offers from joe public on AT. However, a dealer bought it for the full asking price and now it is for sale at £2k more......It happens everywhere.
 
Maria1 said:
I find this thread interesting and it seems to be replicated on other enthusiast forums. I am a member of NSXCB (the forum for Honda NSX) and about 7 years ago a range of members were bemoaning the fact that the NSX was increasing in price and their view was that it shouldn't. Indeed, they regularly used the forum to try and argue the prices down. This was when a car could be yours for £25k. But they were hankering for the days when the higher mile cars could be had for £15k. Now, of course, even the cheapest autos are around £40k and good cars are more often at £50-70k. And they sell. The issue of being unhappy about rising prices appears (unsurprisingly) to be those who haven't got one yet and they might have missed the boat (or are still catching the boat up). Those who bought at the right time will keep schtum, figuring that their cars might also have become an investment (even if they only maintain parity) and won't be unhappy at this development. For the new buyer, we will now start to see even more cars at cheaper prices as they fall into the hands of people who can't really afford therm and the maintenance cycle is broken and they become sheds. BMWs do this as do Jags/Mercs of course! So cheap ownership will be possible but at your peril perhaps. Conversely, low mileage cherished cars of the right spec (but not necessarily everything optioned) will command more money and will sell because people will realise that they can no longer get them like that. Three years ago, low miles 3.0i were relatively commonplace; now it is rare to see them below 50k miles. I am not selling my 2011 M Sport 3.0i auto but if I did I wouldn't take less than £14k. Mainly because i know you just can't find such sub-20,000 mile cars in good spec and in outstanding condition everyday. Having a 3.0i helps in this respect as they are relatively rare and the N52 engine is highly regarded. [Cue lots of anguish from the four cylinder and 3.5i/is mob] And that situation will only get worse for buyers unless, of course, the bottom falls out of the E89 market entirely. This is normal supply and demand at work. By the way, I just sold a motorbike (quite rare and sought after) and had no sensible offers from joe public on AT. However, a dealer bought it for the full asking price and now it is for sale at £2k more......It happens everywhere.

Totally logical thought process there. :thumbsup: I agree the number of good quality low miles 30i will only continue to diminish over the next few years and with the 30i being a fairly rare E89 model to begin with should see good ones stabilise perhaps increase in value with time. The grey one with 24k miles in the link I posted above is proof of this situation as is the 27K miler bought for around 11K GBP which was advertised on this forum and purchased by a trader and put up again for around 14K GBP that too has also gone!
 
Here in the US we pay almost double for the 3.0 with reasonable miles. And they are selling anywhere from 15-25k. I gave 17 for my nearly perfect 3.0 with 60k miles last year. When I read threads like $5000 in repairs for 35i this morning I feel like I have chosen wisely :D
 
Back
Top Bottom