3.0i manual performance data
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It is a G-tech Pro RR.
Downsides are it's not really really accurate vs a vBox, but it's close enough.
vBox also does steady state onwards acceleration, so 40mph steady state in 4th, then floor it, and it works.
G-tech Pro RR at £200 is £100 cheaper than the basic vBox, and data management is a bit fiddly (serial) but it does have rpm input, essential for testing before/after performance...
To get that rpm input on vBox means about £1000 on kit. Not cheap.
Imho, considering what the 3.0i does (first ever try on a cold ish road, cold tyres, and it pretty much met manufacturer figures), an M Z4 should dip 5s nicely with a good launch imho.
Downsides are it's not really really accurate vs a vBox, but it's close enough.
vBox also does steady state onwards acceleration, so 40mph steady state in 4th, then floor it, and it works.
G-tech Pro RR at £200 is £100 cheaper than the basic vBox, and data management is a bit fiddly (serial) but it does have rpm input, essential for testing before/after performance...
To get that rpm input on vBox means about £1000 on kit. Not cheap.
Imho, considering what the 3.0i does (first ever try on a cold ish road, cold tyres, and it pretty much met manufacturer figures), an M Z4 should dip 5s nicely with a good launch imho.
Dreamer said:Interesting Dave! Looks like its on the money, and peace of mind the cars performing as it should.
Not sure if a filter will make much odds but worth trying for the fun of it. I have the Helene filter and didn't notice a scrap of difference, but then i wasn't timing anything.
Sounds like your having fun messin around anywayswhich is what its all about
Yep, all a bit of fun.
The filter test is mainly to prove to people on here that it DOESN'T make a worthwhile difference, so they stop buying junk and saving their money!
I plan to contact some filter suppliers and ask them if they are willing to put their filters to the test... or just get a refund because they make no difference
Dave
Well, the actual 0-60mph time was 5.77s here.
0-62mph was about 5.95s.
I rekon on a hot day with hot tyres on good tarmac you'd not need to feather (remember this was my first go, so wasn't sure how much it'd fishtail etc), so SMG should probably do comfy 5.9s 0-60mph without issue
0-62mph was about 5.95s.
I rekon on a hot day with hot tyres on good tarmac you'd not need to feather (remember this was my first go, so wasn't sure how much it'd fishtail etc), so SMG should probably do comfy 5.9s 0-60mph without issue
thestig said:
I struggle to understand why some people are so sensitive stiggy, I really do and no I am not deluded stiggy nor am I calling your mother a fat ugly slag. Dont be so touchy!
On two occasions the auto beat the manual (si) off the line convincingly. I stand by what I have said, the auto is quicker through the early gears and I am satisfied it would beat you off the lights hands down due to the quicker gear changes. From a rolling start at 50mph onwards things are different against the new model.
The Parker’ based figures you quote are academic, these figures differ by 5-10% dependant upon which publication your read.
The facts are NOT “unrefutable” (unlike your spelling). :0)
No, no chip on my shoulder. I've had 3 Z4s. I have had 2 previous brand new manuals and chose a used auto on this occasion due to sitting in traffic each morning and each evening.
Note how the pics were taken in 2004 and the cars are both 2004 models. :0)
Car number 1…..
Car number 2……
Car number 3 (2005 car taken in 2009)……
Listen stiggy, I chose an automatic, the automatic did not chose me. Should I have wanted a manual car I would have bought one. The car I opted for fit the bill in terms of finances, equipment, transmission and condition.
The facts stand, my 2005 3.0i SE automatic beat a 3.0si manual off the lights on two occasions. Surprising I admit, that said the auto was and will be quicker through the early gears. Make of that what you will but an auto will shift better and quicker than you and I am confident out of 5 runs it would win in most.
Good lad.
ED, not sure if you’ve noticed but the price of the early cars have dropped below Corsa levels and as such now attract that type of owner on occasion.
thestig said:
If you are referring to the stig thinking its is you then I'd have to say yes and quite convincingly at that.
You aren’t the stig and I would hazard a guess that this forum is populated with many better drivers than you. That is of course unless your Perry Mason reincarnated as a bitter and twisted old man?
I have beaten an Aston Martin and a Ferrari off the lights in the JCW MINI S I had before the z4......doesn't mean it was quicker than them though and I can beat almost anything to 30MPH on my chipped 50cc Aprillia scooter** off the lights! 
**Mind you, you may have a point there as that is an "auto". :wink:
**Mind you, you may have a point there as that is an "auto". :wink:
thestig said:I aint being drawn into a petty argument.
Everyone else agrees with me and your arguments just dont stand up.
Every publication puts the manual quicker as does everyone on here.
How about a non-homophobic smile instead?
I dont see everyone agreeing with you. This was covered before you appeared on the board and there is video evidence to show what took place on that day.
I'm not saying the manual (si) is not quicker, I am however saying the auto is quicker off the line than 90% of manual cars due to the speed in which gears are changed. When the cars are travelling at speed and in gear things are different for which I do not dispute.
Smile is better.
Liverpool
DannyBoy said:thestig said:I aint being drawn into a petty argument.
Everyone else agrees with me and your arguments just dont stand up.
Every publication puts the manual quicker as does everyone on here.
How about a non-homophobic smile instead?
I dont see everyone agreeing with you. This was covered before you appeared on the board and there is video evidence to show what took place on that day.
I'm not saying the manual (si) is not quicker, I am however saying the auto is quicker off the line than 90% of manual cars due to the speed in which gears are changed. When the cars are travelling at speed and in gear things are different for which I do not dispute.
Smile is better.
What *actually* happened was, t20lau showed how crap he is at accelerating hard
mmm-five said:DannyBoy said:
Did you mean Perry Mason, or Perry McCarthy
No work to do and yet the law is still on my mind!
Stiggywig, take a look over here for slightly more reasoned arguments to effect the above.
http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9427- Status
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