FOR SALE 2021 white BMW Z4 s drive 2.0i very low mileage of 11000 £26500 (immaculate condition)

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Bombur said:
If I hadn't joined this forum then I would be happily driving my Z4 oblivious to potential issues......now Im always thinking about them...thanks everyone :rofl:
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Yeah there is that.
You can be constantly on edge waiting for the roof bong of doom. Or if owning an N20 just waiting for the camchain to snap and lunch your engine. Car forums are great!
 
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enuff_zed said:
Well I'm going to carry on being sarcastic regardless. It's the lowest form of wit and something I have finally mastered. :rofl:
Yes, I do treat it as a community: more like a proper old owners' club.
If I didn't have that feeling about it then I wouldn't spend so much time trying to help others.
Most of the established members must surely have sussed me out by now anyway. I have absolutely no interest in knowing what they think of me or my approach to this forum and life in general. I would still do my utmost to assist them if they needed help.
So apologies in advance as I'm sure it is only a few posts more before I annoy you all again. :cool:
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To be fair, if the price for all the help that you and others provide on here is a bit of sarcasm, then it's not a bad deal is it.
 
I saw the ad very soon after it was posted and thought, wow, not much effort there. At the asking price, at least make an effort. I get the seller is new to the forum, but a quick look at how other ad’s have been structured would have prevented all this. It’s a fairly new car, so we’re not asking for 20+ years of history.

One thing though, unlike the majority of forum members, most owners have zero interest in cars, they are simply a chunk of metal to drive and at some point sell. I get that may be hard to understand for car nuts, but we are the minority.

The seller should have taken the helpful banter on the chin.
 
I think it’s fine to join and post an advert, but you’re a sitting duck for a comment or two if you post a car for sale to a forum full of enthusiasts with nothing more than a few pics and a price.
 
I think it boils down to today’s attitudes and expectations. Quick hit, in/out, don’t bother with detail, just do it mentality. If criticised, tell the critic to f**k off. They can’t cope, they go elsewhere.

But it works both ways. I am a sensible chap as well but my patience has been strained as a seller recently - on eBay. Perfect ad (of course I know what is expected from this forum), lots of background on the bike, mentioning many times it’s PERFECT (which it is with 3000 miles) and me a handy (bike - they are smaller) spannerman. Lots of detail pics showing a perfect undercarriage etc. BUT STILL I GET RIDICULOUS REQUESTS that make it clear the author hasn’t had the mental ability to read for more than one minute. In the end I took the advert off - after increasing the price by £500 to combat the twats who just said give you £500-1000 less without even talking to me about it. It will go on AT. I insisted everyone call me to discuss as I didn’t do email ping pong. They all ran away. Everybody. And they all said they were genuine. Really?

The point I am making is that the vehicle sales world has changed other than for classics where communication remains essential. It is now keyboard based and if no results happen they go to WBAC or car supermarket. They don’t have the ability nor the “time” to do the rounds and they expect a crap advert to be good enough. And nobody wants to communicate any more in person. It’s why we are here on the internet (lol).

I think for the sake of the forum and its longevity we just need to accept without sarcasm that this is how car selling is and welcome them here anyway even if we think it’s a bit rich. It could have been a great car and now it’s gone.

We need to remember that most forums (and FB etc) are regularely used by those who need to sell/buy/get help and then they go away……it’s life.
 
CliveN said:
I think it boils down to today’s attitudes and expectations. Quick hit, in/out, don’t bother with detail, just do it mentality. If criticised, tell the critic to f**k off. They can’t cope, they go elsewhere.

But it works both ways. I am a sensible chap as well but my patience has been strained as a seller recently - on eBay. Perfect ad (of course I know what is expected from this forum), lots of background on the bike, mentioning many times it’s PERFECT (which it is with 3000 miles) and me a handy (bike - they are smaller) spannerman. Lots of detail pics showing a perfect undercarriage etc. BUT STILL I GET RIDICULOUS REQUESTS that make it clear the author hasn’t had the mental ability to read for more than one minute. In the end I took the advert off - after increasing the price by £500 to combat the twats who just said give you £500-1000 less without even talking to me about it. It will go on AT. I insisted everyone call me to discuss as I didn’t do email ping pong. They all ran away. Everybody. And they all said they were genuine. Really?

The point I am making is that the vehicle sales world has changed other than for classics where communication remains essential. It is now keyboard based and if no results happen they go to WBAC or car supermarket. They don’t have the ability nor the “time” to do the rounds and they expect a crap advert to be good enough. And nobody wants to communicate any more in person. It’s why we are here on the internet (lol).

I think for the sake of the forum and its longevity we just need to accept without sarcasm that this is how car selling is and welcome them here anyway even if we think it’s a bit rich. It could have been a great car and now it’s gone.

We need to remember that most forums (and FB etc) are regularely used by those who need to sell/buy/get help and then they go away……it’s life.
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Great post 👏
 
CliveN said:
I think it boils down to today’s attitudes and expectations. Quick hit, in/out, don’t bother with detail, just do it mentality. If criticised, tell the critic to f**k off. They can’t cope, they go elsewhere.

But it works both ways. I am a sensible chap as well but my patience has been strained as a seller recently - on eBay. Perfect ad (of course I know what is expected from this forum), lots of background on the bike, mentioning many times it’s PERFECT (which it is with 3000 miles) and me a handy (bike - they are smaller) spannerman. Lots of detail pics showing a perfect undercarriage etc. BUT STILL I GET RIDICULOUS REQUESTS that make it clear the author hasn’t had the mental ability to read for more than one minute. In the end I took the advert off - after increasing the price by £500 to combat the twats who just said give you £500-1000 less without even talking to me about it. It will go on AT. I insisted everyone call me to discuss as I didn’t do email ping pong. They all ran away. Everybody. And they all said they were genuine. Really?

The point I am making is that the vehicle sales world has changed other than for classics where communication remains essential. It is now keyboard based and if no results happen they go to WBAC or car supermarket. They don’t have the ability nor the “time” to do the rounds and they expect a crap advert to be good enough. And nobody wants to communicate any more in person. It’s why we are here on the internet (lol).

I think for the sake of the forum and its longevity we just need to accept without sarcasm that this is how car selling is and welcome them here anyway even if we think it’s a bit rich. It could have been a great car and now it’s gone.

We need to remember that most forums (and FB etc) are regularely used by those who need to sell/buy/get help and then they go away……it’s life.
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Agree with the above.
The problem I see with selling on 'tinternet is that there are many people out there scanning everything with a view to making a few quid, as many don't have 'proper' jobs anymore. The constant "I'll give you £xxxx for it today" responses are from chancers who are wannabe 'dealers and traders', looking to flip the item for a few quid. They are also hoping the seller is desperate to sell, as some are, although that seems to be getting less and less.

I think the hardest part of selling anything these days is finding the right person and engaging them with the item. That's where the 'art' of advertising comes in. You have to put up with the 'chancers' no matter what, because they are everywhere.

As a buyer I never look at anything seriously which has a three word advert. My attitude is "if they can't be bothered, nor can I".
 
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