2010 s-line 2.3 owner's manual

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Use the 30i version its almost identical otherwise download the BMW owners manual app and then key in your vin..voila! :thumbsup:
 
A 23i should run very happily on 95 RON fuel..

So something has happened.. :tumbleweed:

Could be a tuner has re-mapped it for 98 RON fuel, seems unlikely but explains the situation

After that you need a decent diagnostic tool like Bimmergeeks Protool to see what the current codes are and the shadow codes (ones that happened in the past but went away) :thumbsup:
 
AFAIK there was only one version fitted to the 23i in all markets...for a very long time almost all BMWs are certfied to run on 95 RON fuel happily.

FRM failures are common and it has nothing to do with the specfic diagnostic tool.

Engine light on is not good news..you need to find the root cause, adding higher octane fuel (unless it has been re-flashed) is not the cure.

Sp have you read the fault coides?
 
My 23i owners manual says minimum 91 RON, recommends 95 and E10 is ok.
Sure it's not a faulty coil, triggering the knock sensor.
 
nowool said:
its a Japanese import from what i understand the N52B is a more high compression engine and and the 3.0 was used in the US to attain the same horsepower with lower compression. I tried bimmergeeks protool and that fried my frm3 footwell module just by checking it. so trying both bimmergeeks and bimmercode and afterwards having to take it to the dealership to fix and replace the modules (which wasn't cheap): i'm now trying to find out if i can run 95 ron (i really don't care about the emissions, i just want to add fuel in rural areas that don't have 98 ron. if the engine light is coming on due to emissions then i can add 98 ron fuel when i get to the nearest city. I just want to know if using lower ron will hurt my engine.
Have you looked to see what fuel (RON) is available in Japan? The fuel/o2 sensors and/or ignition timing may be tailored to a specific market (unlikely but worth a look surely)?

Unless you can find a specific JDM handbook (which will probably be in Japanese) I don't think it will help TBH :
 
FWIW there should be a sticker on the inside of the fuel filler flap telling you what it needs.

The writing may be in Japanese, but there should be some numbers!
 
Would have thought the tuning would be to cover all potential markets rather than specific tune for countries.
 
flybobbie said:
Would have thought the tuning would be to cover all potential markets rather than specific tune for countries.

I was referring to a local Japanese tuner….by restricting your fuel to 98/99 RON+ they could eek out a small number of BHP…

Most JDM cars run on 95 RON or less.

I suspect some fault in the engine management system and it’s sensors..FWIW
 
Mr Tidy said:
FWIW there should be a sticker on the inside of the fuel filler flap telling you what it needs.

The writing may be in Japanese, but there should be some numbers!

Label here just says "No lead" "High Octane"
That is 98 ron I believe

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nowool said:
car has been in to the dealer and also a custom BMW mods shop. Everything working fine with no faults.
I took it in to have its power curve measured and i'ts kicking out 255 @ 6432 rpm. yes i agree the car was probably tuned and or chipped.

Are you sure its not a 30i?
 
I am very curious as to how they got that many bhp out of a 2.3
Would be interested in that tuning for my car as it only delivers 204hp in the Netherlands
 
It's called a 23i Sdrive.

There is no 1.4 turbo Z4.

I strongly doubt that a 23i got to 255bhp with a simple tune or chip.

Spoiler alert: the 600whp N52 blew up very quickly.
 
nowool said:
tiglon said:
It's called a 23i Sdrive.

There is no 1.4 turbo Z4.

I strongly doubt that a 23i got to 255bhp with a simple tune or chip.

Spoiler alert: the 600whp N52 blew up very quickly.

according to BMW here is the base engine for the E89 (my apologies i misttook the I.4 as displacement.
2.0 L B48 turbocharged I4 . evidently BMW includes the turbo displacement in their engine volumes

The B48 was not used in the E89 Z4. It was the N20, which is also a 2.0 litre turbocharged I4.

The "I4" means Inline 4. Its the number of cylinders and layout. It comes badged as 18i, 20i and 28i. They replaced the 23i and 30i.
 
This is a snapshot of the 2010 Japanese 23i spec online. Compression ratio is listed as 11.0 (underlined). All of these cars would be specified to use high octane, which can be 98~100 depending on which brand is used. Is that different to other markets?
Can search other sites if it's helpful. :thumbsup:

Z4 spec 23i.jpg
 
The link from Roddy shows that the Japanese spec 23i produces 204PS. That is the same as in Europe... :tumbleweed:

So the 2.5 lire engine has a different displacement to the 2.5 litre engine?

I'm out :thumbsup:
 
nowool said:
tiglon said:
nowool said:
according to BMW here is the base engine for the E89 (my apologies i misttook the I.4 as displacement.
2.0 L B48 turbocharged I4 . evidently BMW includes the turbo displacement in their engine volumes

The B48 was not used in the E89 Z4. It was the N20, which is also a 2.0 litre turbocharged I4.

The "I4" means Inline 4. Its the number of cylinders and layout. It comes badged as 18i, 20i and 28i. They replaced the 23i and 30i.

from gathering on the web, the 2.5 didn't meet emissions standards for euro, Brit and American standards so they drilled out the block and made up the HP with displacement and lower 95 ron.

Hi, Bmw do not include turbo displacement in the engine capacity numbers-that makes no sense.
Rob
 
All N52B25s in all markets had a 11:0 to 1 ratio..

According to most sources there were three variants ..

Cylinder bore and piston stroke are 82.0 mm (3.23 in) and 79.0 mm (3.11 in), respectively. The compression ratio rating is 11.0:1.

The N52B25 engine had three versions..

N52B25O1 this modification was manufactured from 2005 to 2008, and used for BMW models with 25i index. This engine produced 218 PS (160 kW; 215 HP) at 6,500 rpm of horsepower and 250 N·m (25.5 kg·m, 184.3 ft·lb) at 2,750-3,000 rpm of torque.


N52B25U1 this version with decreased level of HP was manufactured from 2005 to 2010 and used for BMW models with 23i index. This version produced 177 PS (130 kW; 174 HP) at 6,500 rpm of output power and 230 N·m (23.5 kg·m, 169.5 ft·lb) at 3,500-5,000 rpm of torque.


N52B25 this version was equipped with another intake manifoldand was was manufactured from 2009 to 2011. This version produced 204 PS (150 kW; 201 HP) at 6,400 rpm of output power and 250 N·m (25.5 kg·m, 184.3 ft·lb) at 2,750-4,250 rpm of torque, and used for BMW models with 23i index.

There’s no evidence AFAIK to support the theory of a JDM engine variant.

There’s nothing to stop the importer placarding the requirement for a specific level of fuel grade if they think the regular grades don’t cut it.

Realoem doesn’t show any DME changes for different markets..normally if there is a different state of tune it’s reflected in the same physical DME but with different part number to reflect a country specific s/w version.

A 255 bhp tune is mathematically possible but seems improbable given that most tuners post charts showing 15-25 bhp gains..

If it was tuned then that would be the sole reason for a need for better than 95 RON fuel..
 

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nowool said:
tiglon said:
As you can plainly see from roddys post the asian engine (N52B25O1) is different and runs at a higher compression ratio.
https://www.engine-specs.net/bmw/n52b25.html.

i don't know why you are so defensive; I'm only trying to answer your questions and i have no idea to the mods the previous owner did. all i have is the dyno record.
As you can plainly see from roddys post the asian engine (N52B25O1) is different and runs at a higher compression ratio.
https://www.engine-specs.net/bmw/n52b25.html.

i don't know why you are so defensive; I'm only trying to answer your questions and i have no idea to the mods the previous owner did. all i have is the dyno record.

N52B25 (150 kW)
BMW 323i (E90) Canada 2007-2011
BMW 523i (F10) 2010-2011
BMW Z4 sDrive23i (E89) 2009-2011

Your dyno is wrong, or the car isn't standard.
 
I’m not sure what you’re seeing on those spec sheets, it states a cr of 11.0:1 which is identical to all uk 23i cars?
What ratio are you seeing there?
Rob
 
nowool said:
tiglon said:
As you can plainly see from roddys post the asian engine (N52B25O1) is different and runs at a higher compression ratio.
https://www.engine-specs.net/bmw/n52b25.html.

i don't know why you are so defensive; I'm only trying to answer your questions and i have no idea to the mods the previous owner did. all i have is the dyno record.
As you can plainly see from roddys post the asian engine (N52B25O1) is different and runs at a higher compression ratio.
https://www.engine-specs.net/bmw/n52b25.html.

i don't know why you are so defensive; I'm only trying to answer your questions and i have no idea to the mods the previous owner did. all i have is the dyno record.

If you post links, read the information within first?
N52.jpg
 
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