2009 vs 2014 Z4
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matthurley said:
Matt I've been out with a guy from here who owned a Z4M Coupe, and when he pulled away from me at a high speed, I up just couldn't match it. I used to be the first to say that I thought I was a match from an M, but I truly believe it's not the case....and yes I noticed it.....and it was amazing. I don't know if he had his car with extra power but it was up there and I couldn't keep up.
ruggedscot
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With times like that as you say driving them is the only way to find out how they feel.
the 35is is turbo charged so the driving experience will be totally different to a naturally aspirated engine - you have to be aware of the power delivery and how that makes the car feel. As a turbo starts to feed in you will get that surge, no matter how good they are at blending this into the performance it will always have an effect off boost the engine will not have the same performance. Things like compression ratio will be different and off boost the engine will feel different to what it feels like when on boost. The naturally aspirated will feel stronger off the mark and may not feel as fast as the turbo as it wont have that characteristic surge as the turbo comes in.
the o-60 times are brutal indeed - Dont think anyone drives like that in real life. So although a good indicator of performance they cant be taken in isolation. Its always been the 50 - 70 increments that have mattered - more like real world driveability. Your on the wrong side of the road overtaking so how long does that take ?
the 35is is turbo charged so the driving experience will be totally different to a naturally aspirated engine - you have to be aware of the power delivery and how that makes the car feel. As a turbo starts to feed in you will get that surge, no matter how good they are at blending this into the performance it will always have an effect off boost the engine will not have the same performance. Things like compression ratio will be different and off boost the engine will feel different to what it feels like when on boost. The naturally aspirated will feel stronger off the mark and may not feel as fast as the turbo as it wont have that characteristic surge as the turbo comes in.
the o-60 times are brutal indeed - Dont think anyone drives like that in real life. So although a good indicator of performance they cant be taken in isolation. Its always been the 50 - 70 increments that have mattered - more like real world driveability. Your on the wrong side of the road overtaking so how long does that take ?
ruggedscot said:
The 28i M sport is also turbocharged
Engine performance is different definitely - but maybe not the way you would expect.
I've driven the e92 M3 quite a bit - low down the engine is pretty mild (don't wanna say gutless - but below 4k revs it is like a 2 litre BMW). At high revs it picks up, but you need to scream round everywhere for it to be in it's sweet spot. Really it picks up about 6k revs.... how much time do you spend there in normal driving?
I have a 35is now - the engine is super strong at low revs in comparison. No turbo lag / surge / lull at low revs.
It is nuts from a standstill - much more torque than the normally aspirated engine.
You really need to try one & see for yourself - I doubt you will be disappointed.
Matt
I've driven the e92 M3 quite a bit - low down the engine is pretty mild (don't wanna say gutless - but below 4k revs it is like a 2 litre BMW). At high revs it picks up, but you need to scream round everywhere for it to be in it's sweet spot. Really it picks up about 6k revs.... how much time do you spend there in normal driving?
I have a 35is now - the engine is super strong at low revs in comparison. No turbo lag / surge / lull at low revs.
It is nuts from a standstill - much more torque than the normally aspirated engine.
You really need to try one & see for yourself - I doubt you will be disappointed.
Matt
ruggedscot
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Sorry was referring to the comparison between the 3.0 and 3.5
The Z4 4cylinder engines are the same engine in different states of tune I believe. Id driven a few of the 4 cylinder versions before going for the 23sdrive. Liked the howl of the six an its not much off the mark performance wise.
The Z4 4cylinder engines are the same engine in different states of tune I believe. Id driven a few of the 4 cylinder versions before going for the 23sdrive. Liked the howl of the six an its not much off the mark performance wise.
+3BrianD said:Titan said:+1tomscott said:Bit of a drop from a sweet 6 3ltr twin to a 4 pot 2.0l twin. I would probably keep the 35
I think you will miss the performance of the 35
+2
Seriously you really need to think this one through some more, you will certainly miss the power and the sweet 6 :wink:
Can't imagine buying the same car with less umff & missing that lovely 6
Well, I listened to all the advice.... and ignored the majority of you! 28i M sport in Mineral Grey with Walnut leather, adaptive suspension, pro Nav, comfort pack on order!! Got a really good discount from my dealer (Broadspeed were really useful in the bargaining process). Should be on build last week of June
shortfuse 2
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don't doooooo ittttt you will regret it :thumbsdown: .never be as good as 35is hopefully my next car soon . 
shortfuse 2 said:don't doooooo ittttt you will regret it :thumbsdown: .never be as good as 35is hopefully my next car soon .
He hasn't got a 35is he's got a 35i.
And whilst some may be happy driving old cars with big engines, we aren't all the same!
The 28i is no slouch either......and don't give me that 6 cylinder bollocks, there's fuc# all wrong with the newer turbo 4 Pot.
Zed Five said:TitanTim said:
just what we've been saying for the past few years.
:lol: Well it would have been unkind to write it off from the start, but when I can jump back in my 13 year old 4cyl Z3 after its stood idle the past 3 months and it sounds smooth a refined from cold start and then jump in the Z4 and it sounds like a bag of spanners then something has gone wrong in engine evolution.
Tim.