03~05 FULL circle Brake light BRIEF

kal said:
where can i get these connectors i couldn't find them, i looked every where, what do they call them ?!
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Scotchlok connectors - this is a UK link but you must be able to get them from all car accessory stores, think there are different sizes for different wire thicknesses too.

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http://www.autowirez.co.uk/20-blue-scotchlok-connectors-pr-40.html
 
gajah said:
waittttttttt, how about the inner part lights? i mean, there are 2 lights for your tail lights, 1 is in the outer side and 1 is in the inner side.
i just found out that these inner side lights wont turn on. why? what are these lights for?
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As pointed out earlier in the thread, the second part of the light comes on when the ABS is engaged. This is so that the guy following really close behind you knows to brace against the steering wheel and turn his head for when his airbag deploys when he/she hits you.
From the Manual:
Normal braking:
Brake lamp 1 (outer edge of circle) lights up on both sides of the vehicle together with the center brake lamp
> Forceful braking and braking with ABS:
Brake lamps 1 and 2 (outer and inner halves of circle) light up on both vehicle sides together with the center brake lamp.
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Sorry guys,I read the whole thread but I still don't understand if I need to cut the 1st and 4th wire to join 'em toghether :oops:
 
Albertoxx said:
Sorry guys,I read the whole thread but I still don't understand if I need to cut the 1st and 4th wire to join 'em toghether :oops:
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From the looks of it you need to join them together with a scotchlok connector :thumbsup:
 
Can't believe I missed this post until someone pointed it out to me. :oops:

Decided to do it this afternoon, so thanks to BlackSapphireZ for the original post

On pulling the light cover off I did not like the idea of a couple of Scotchlocs, preferring a physical join rather than mechanical so decided to make a simple bridge.

Removing the white cover from the plug the inner pins can be released, slid out and then a wire loop soldered to each. The pins are then refitted, plastic cover put on and job done. Reversal could be done by unsoldering or simply cutting the loop off at the pins.

I think it looks a lot better

Connector with cover removed
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Pins pulled out ready to loop
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Looped soldered in, pins refitted and locking cover back on
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One done for comparison
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Stupid question, but can the brake switch take the loading of adding another 2 bulbs ?

Also is it only upto 04 cars that don't have the ABS 2nd brake light additional warning ?
 
ianreeves said:
Stupid question, but can the brake switch take the loading of adding another 2 bulbs ?

Also is it only upto 04 cars that don't have the ABS 2nd brake light additional warning ?
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Actually since its a bus system the brake switch will just be an electronic signal generator so no current involved there. Secondly as it is intended to light in certain circumstances then the wiring will take the extra.

No probs so far, nor on a fellow board member Zed who did it some time ago

Can't comment on the 2004 onward question
 
I did mine a little different... Instead of just bridging the circuits I installed a nitrous delay controller I had laying around and used it to control relays to bridge the connections. This gives me the option of delaying the illumination of the inner half of the lamp once the outer half comes on. I have it set at a delay of one second right now. It is adjustable from one tenth of a second up to 20 seconds or so. I used the input from the third stop lamp to activate the controller so as not to alter the circuit voltage on either lamp which might bring on the lamp out warning light. I've been using it for six months now without any issues at all. :thumbsup:
The controller is quite small (2"x2"x.5") so it and the relays fit nicely under the trunk liner below the right lamp access panel.
 
I did mine last Thursday before leaving for the holiday weekend. Took me about 15 min following the pics from the original thread. Really easy to do. :thumbsup: Thanks. :D
 
did the how-to also according to original thread, easy as 1-2-3... or is that 3-2-1? Thanks BlacksapphireZ :thumbsup:
 
I did mine today the way cj10jeeper hand done it, it was simple enough but one note of caution, it's not the outside wires... its the first and the second to last... both sides have gray color wires so take the gray and the last wire on the other end and make a bridge. I did mine in 30-40 min while entertaining my 14 month old son :) so it' not that hard and I feel safer with more light in the back warning people that I've got the brakes on :driving:
 
This is a safetly feature to warn following drivers when you are braking sharply - why would you want to remove it? :?
 
Davo said:
This is a safetly feature to warn following drivers when you are braking sharply - why would you want to remove it? :?
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frankly till I got my Z, I had no Idea that If the full light came on it ment that the car was braking hard. and I doubt that I'm the only one... I always went with the old stanby which is Keeping proper distance from the car infront of you... if the car is tailing me, it wont matter how the lights com on, they will still hit me. So, If I can warn people with brighter Brake lights, I am more likely to get their attention and get them to stop earlier. Or so the theory goes :poke:
 
Rasalon said:
I did mine today the way cj10jeeper hand done it, it was simple enough but one note of caution, it's not the outside wires... its the first and the second to last... both sides have gray color wires so take the gray and the last wire on the other end and make a bridge. I did mine in 30-40 min while entertaining my 14 month old son :) so it' not that hard and I feel safer with more light in the back warning people that I've got the brakes on :driving:
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I did not realise I had given the impression that it was the outer wires?? My posts shows photos of the exact wires I used before, during and after fitting.

In terms of removing a safety device I can see that argument, but firstly I tried and could not get the inner part to illuminate whatever I did. Hard, locked, ABS working, etc. so I reasoned 'all on' is better than half and if I'm braking so hard as to activate ABS to trigger it then the guy behind is certainly going to have a job to stop as quick as a Z4 in any normal car. I also really don't think the average tailgater is attuned to 2 lights means 'sh*t' better really stop...
 
Thanks for this guys, did mine tonight :thumbsup: although I had a moment, because I used the connectors, when I first did it the inner lights did not work, a bit more pressure on the connectors did it, you have to push them home quite firm, guess i was just being cautious :oops:
 
Finally I did it!
It took just a little screwdriver (to unplug the pins) two little wires and a couple of clamps. I didn't even solder the wires.
It's easy to recognize the right wires because on the connector they are numbered!
 
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