Taken a gamble on the new daily

[Pondy]

I wonder if new accident black spots will develop in areas where the speed limit recognition mistakenly reads the speed limit on a neighbouring street and applies that to a car travelling on a major road, aggressively braking the car.

Not all cameras are equal. The Audi one is very good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) and will pick up a road sign thrown in a ditch.
The Ford one is shite and picks up around 50% of signs even when driven right past them. So in this case shite is better!

The irony for me is that the Ford doesn't have default 'on' for all the nannying shite, even though it was registered in January 2025 (cos it was built long before and sat in a dealer's compound for nearly a year, so I found out after buying it). I did get it very cheap, though, and it means the ECU isn't locked so can be re-mapped!

 

[TitanTim]

If one spends the first five minutes of every journey navigating submenus to switch off distracting warnings, is the post-2024 car safer or more dangerous?

I wonder if new accident black spots will develop in areas where the speed limit recognition mistakenly reads the speed limit on a neighbouring street and applies that to a car travelling on a major road, aggressively braking the car (as experienced by JonVR46).

To be honest I don't see the difference between using a phone and a screen in a car, albeight you shouldn't be using either whilst driving but I bet nearly everyone will tapping away at their cars screen whilst on the move. More so if things like heating controls are buried away in a screen menu. Its funny how cars are supposed to be getting safer.

Tim.

 

[JonVR46]

I wonder if new accident black spots will develop in areas where the speed limit recognition mistakenly reads the speed limit on a neighbouring street and applies that to a car travelling on a major road, aggressively braking the car (as experienced by JonVR46).

I can virtually guarantee, the local speed camera van won't be there......they'll still be hiding on a country lane, catching people going from 30 mph to 60 mph, a few metres before they go past the national speed limit sign

Sorry for hijacking your thread Ian......

For me, modern cars are designed to be too safe. People are conditioned, and have become far too reliant on technology to drive for them.

I mean 'B' mode and one pedal braking.....come on

Convenience and creature comforts are all nice, yet they shouldn't take away the responsibilty, or ultimately the control of the driver.

I'm not saying cars should all be like a TVR Griffith with no ABS, TC, cameras etc but they need to keep the driver alert and engaged.....rant over

 

[Mr Tidy]

To be honest I don't see the difference between using a phone and a screen in a car, albeight you shouldn't be using either whilst driving but I bet nearly everyone will tapping away at their cars screen whilst on the move. More so if things like heating controls are buried away in a screen menu. Its funny how cars are supposed to be getting safer.

I can't see the difference either, and wouldn't want to use either while moving. Burying things like heater controls in screen menus is never going to make anything safer.

 

[Pondy]

I can't see the difference either, and wouldn't want to use either while moving. Burying things like heater controls in screen menus is never going to make anything safer.

To be fair, things like heater controls, rear window heater, etc always (at least in my experience) have their own touchable icons on the main screen, no matter which 'screen' you are in.
However (again in my experience), they take too long to react after 'touching' them. In my FK8 Type R, which had all the controls on screen, it would take several seconds for anything to happen and then another few seconds to 'adjust' anything. That meant you would be looking at the screen for up to ten seconds without looking where you are going.

My Audrey (2024 model) has heater controls as knobs and separate buttons still, just everything else is on the screen, which is a better compromise IMO.

The Focus has everything on the screen and it is not user-friendly at all. It has a 'virtual slider' for fan speed and heat temp; how stupid is that?

But if I want to go really 'old school' I can drive my Fauxrrari, which not only doesn't have a screen, it doesn't have airbags, or head restraints....or warning lights (well not many anyway). The only 'bong' was a 'lights on reminder' which I cut the wires to when re-installing it.

 

[MrPT]

If this was PH, this thread would be on fire and in the bin by now.

 

[TitanTim]

Anything with buttons is better, I still miss a manual choke on cold frosty mornings

Tim.

 

[enuff_zed]

Anything with buttons is better, I still miss a manual choke on cold frosty mornings

Tim.

You need to leave your personal fetishes off the forum please

 

[tomscott]

Mine is a dec 2024 car i dont spend any time turning off the nany stuff. Its all preset in the menus and i turn off what i dont want and it remembers. Maybe just Teslas but not my experience so far.

I currently have lane assist off, and it stays that way but I like the speed limit change bongs as in the city they are trying to penalise you around every corner so actually like this feature.