zed stuck in gear when left on an incline-

andysat said:
Only happens when zed parked on an incline not on a flat surface, tbh I think the handbrake may not have fully held the car, that's why I put it in first gear.
yeah that's what happens but as soon as you depress the clutch the gear lever should release whether it's running or not.
 
andysat said:
oli445 said:
andysat said:
Hi all, recently I have noticed when I leave the zed in first gear parked on an incline,when I come back to it the gear lever is stuck solid, I have to start the car with my foot down on the clutch-any thoughts?

I would bet your handbrake is allowing the car to move slightly, thus locking it in gear.
Is this the definitive answer would you say?

Yes. You leave the car in gear in case the hb fails. Doing this locks the transmission if the car moves stopping the car from rolling further.
 
Maybe the transmission remains locked at some other point in the mechanism if this has happened, even if you depress the clutch ? A safety mechanism perhaps ? I reckon it's slipped on the handbrake and that's what's causing it. Don't forget that the hand takes on these cars are famously shite - lots of people have complained about it on here, and my handbrake needs to be pulled much higher than makes me comfortable to even start to hold the car... Must get it looked at when I have the next service done.
 
Cheers all - just seems strange that it only does it if the zed is parked up/downhill-has anyone else noticed this on theirs?
 
Sorry Andy, I have not - mine's an auto and the transmission locks in P anyway. Also, and weirdly, I can't remember the last time I parked on a hill :? :lol:
 
I'd say there is torque being applied to the gears through the propshaft and rear diff and a draggy clutch. Try releasing the hand brake as the first course of action while applying the foot brake then ease off the foot brake and see if that might release the torque from the gear set prior to starting. That coupled with even a little clutch drag just might be the issue. When you park up. Put the car in neutral while holding the foot brake, Apply the hand brake, Then put it in gear.

I have had that happen in my big 18 wheeler. In fact there is enough torque that if I was even going up or down a slight hill (while driving). I could pull as hard as I could and the gear stick wouldn't budge unless I used the clutch (which is something that you do not do in a large lorry). But if I gave it a little throttle it would release the torque and change to the next gear.
 
andysat said:
Thanks for the replies- forgot to mention i have hill assist if that makes a difference?
No that doesn't affect it. Mine has hill start and if the car is held on the transmission it realeases as soon as I press the clutch. It does sound like your clutch may be dragging slightly. Why not get an indy to have a quick look? I would definitely be interested to hear their opinion.
 
I'd get the transmission fluid changed. It could be running low and draining from the contact points whilst on the incline. The cold weather wouldn't help.
 
andysat said:
Rang my Indy-they said its supposed to lock and only come free when the car is started for safety.
that's not true, not in practice anyway, mines a 2006 z4m with a shite handbrake. Is always parked on a steep hill and I lock the transmission in gear and you can't get it out of gear until the clutch is pressed before I start the car. Also I've never had your problem in any manual car or any of the vans I move about at work that are parked on an incline locked in gear.
 
Adamski said:
Strangely, the handbrake on my old 3.0i was pants. My new zed has a much better handbrake.....

going to adjust mine soon. Mines definitely better that my old 2.5 but don't trust it on steep hills so is left in gear.
 
Thankfully I've got new discs, pads, shoes on the rear of mine, so she holds like glue on hills :D


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Sim_Simma said:
andysat said:
Rang my Indy-they said its supposed to lock and only come free when the car is started for safety.
that's not true, not in practice anyway, mines a 2006 z4m with a shite handbrake. Is always parked on a steep hill and I lock the transmission in gear and you can't get it out of gear until the clutch is pressed before I start the car. Also I've never had your problem in any manual car or any of the vans I move about at work that are parked on an incline locked in gear.
I hear what you are saying mate, its just that I can replicate it happening-if I hardly pull on the handbrake it will 'lock' in gear -if I pull right up on the handbrake it wont lock, so hill assist has nothing to do with it?
 
andysat said:
Sim_Simma said:
andysat said:
Rang my Indy-they said its supposed to lock and only come free when the car is started for safety.
that's not true, not in practice anyway, mines a 2006 z4m with a shite handbrake. Is always parked on a steep hill and I lock the transmission in gear and you can't get it out of gear until the clutch is pressed before I start the car. Also I've never had your problem in any manual car or any of the vans I move about at work that are parked on an incline locked in gear.
I hear what you are saying mate, its just that I can replicate it happening-if I hardly pull on the handbrake it will 'lock' in gear -if I pull right up on the handbrake it wont lock, so hill assist has nothing to do with it?

No because I think you're missing something (I think, maybe I am, if so point it out and I'll eat my words). I'm saying I will purposefully lock mine, forget the handbrake and hill assist imagine they are both off, I pull up on a hill put the car in 1st and turn the engine off, then release the clutch then foot brake. The car is now locked on the transmission and you can't pull the gearstick, it is locked. This is normal, when I press the clutch the gearstick is released and I can now select any gear I choose without starting the car. Am i right in thinking your car will not release the gearstick when you press the clutch, until you start the car?
I think I got that right anyway.
 
Adamski said:
Thankfully I've got new discs, pads, shoes on the rear of mine, so she holds like glue on hills :D


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I will replace mine when I can afford them, the discs atleast, they aren't worn badly but don't look pretty due to being sat a while, but they irritate me lol. My handbrake works ok its just it doesn't start biting until half way up. So by the time its biting it's running out of travel. So adjustment should fix it, hopefully. ..
how are you getting on with the M anyway? It's a nice car! Do you use it as a dd?
 
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