Z4M Running Costs

[Z4M-2006]

You never drive it = mint

dont i?

id happily wage the 12k miles I've done with my car has been infinitely more fun than daily driving, sitting in traffic, in the shite weather, its a toy and i use it as such that how i get my joy from it... its out on the dry days with me at work, its at the sprint circuit either spectating or competing every weekend in summer. I've modded the car, and continue to work on it, continue to better it and the journey is part of the process, the whole ownership is a joy... The cars condition is much more about the effort i put into it.

some people get joy out of buying such a car and using it for every single trip possible, others like to pamper , use sparingly and enjoy it in a different way..... No right or wrong i say

Oh I agree....

But at 12k if it wasn't mint there is something seriously wrong.


How much has your car cost you including purchase and mods for the 12k you have done?

 

[mr wilks]

In your case Paul if you bought the Alpina I think it would be a stepping stone from what you have said. If your going to upgrade get what you really want. :wink:

If the S54 & steering/suspension of the M doesn't woo you from a 3.0Si then the Alpina certainly won't
A totally different package to both above Zs from my albeit short drive in Number5s , more about low down torque & design quirks than punch in the back acceleration or grip in the bends .
A niche market with a cult following , not sure why they are a premium over a 3.0Si though :?

 

[paulgs1000]

In your case Paul if you bought the Alpina I think it would be a stepping stone from what you have said. If your going to upgrade get what you really want. :wink:

If the S54 & steering/suspension of the M doesn't woo you from a 3.0Si then the Alpina certainly won't
A totally different package to both above Zs from my albeit short drive in Number5s , more about low down torque & design quirks than punch in the back acceleration or grip in the bends .
A niche market with a cult following , not sure why they are a premium over a 3.0Si though :?

I don't think the Alpina would be a significant stepping stone either but it would have cheaper running costs than an ///M, which was one of the concerns of the OP.

 

[Angelus666]

I've had a fair few interesting cars over the years and to my mind I think the Z4M should be considered a pretty good performance car buy today (if run over 2 years) with all costs considered. Buy one at £16k today and with 12k additional miles on it you should still get £12k for it in 2018. Ok, you might have to spend £3k on it with tyres, servicing and other bits, but £3.5k a year total cost isn't so bad....I guess the other option is a £16k Boxster/Cayman, which has the benefit of a 20k service interval.

Also, no offence Beedub, but I don't really think a SC car with 12k miles on it can really be offered up as any form of 'guide' to Z4M running costs

*is your car the lowest mile one on here...wonder what Hexagon would sell it for?!

 

[Beedub]

You never drive it = mint

dont i?

id happily wage the 12k miles I've done with my car has been infinitely more fun than daily driving, sitting in traffic, in the shite weather, its a toy and i use it as such that how i get my joy from it... its out on the dry days with me at work, its at the sprint circuit either spectating or competing every weekend in summer. I've modded the car, and continue to work on it, continue to better it and the journey is part of the process, the whole ownership is a joy... The cars condition is much more about the effort i put into it.

some people get joy out of buying such a car and using it for every single trip possible, others like to pamper , use sparingly and enjoy it in a different way..... No right or wrong i say

Oh I agree....

But at 12k if it wasn't mint there is something seriously wrong.


How much has your car cost you including purchase and mods for the 12k you have done?

not sure.... tbh I'm not bothered.... why are you?, and whats what I've spent on the car got to do with you?

 

[Z4M-2006]

Pfffft...I'm not bothered...

The threads about running costs..

If your imparting wisdom on costs of the Z4M at least fill him in on the the car that's cost the most, but done the least...

 

[Herminator]

I've had a fair few interesting cars over the years and to my mind I think the Z4M should be considered a pretty good performance car buy today (if run over 2 years) with all costs considered. Buy one at £16k today and with 12k additional miles on it you should still get £12k for it in 2018. Ok, you might have to spend £3k on it with tyres, servicing and other bits, but £3.5k a year total cost isn't so bad....I guess the other option is a £16k Boxster/Cayman, which has the benefit of a 20k service interval.

Also, no offence Beedub, but I don't really think a SC car with 12k miles on it can really be offered up as any form of 'guide' to Z4M running costs

*is your car the lowest mile one on here...wonder what Hexagon would sell it for?!

If you get £12k for it in a couple of years you must have treated it poorly. I wouldn't be surprised if you bought a good M for £16k now, put 12k miles on it over the next couple of years, it will be £16k still by the time you've finished.
I bought mine for £14k over 4 years ago, I'd expect to be within £1k of that depending on what time of year it was sold (not that it will be) and I've put about 25k miles on the clock. But then in that time I've spent £2k on road tax alone....

 

[CornishRob]

I have used mine as a daily and i think its been very reasonable to run so far. The more you use them, the more value you get from them. The VED becomes cheaper per day used etc.

In my 3.5 years and about 30K Miles, I've had various services. Probably about 4 oil changes and Ins 2. My next scheduled service is an oil change in about 2k.

I don't drive the car hard, so the brakes haven't worn much. I had the front brakes replaced under AUC warranty at 35K ish, and i guess the rears are still original, but will probably need changing. Ive put a new set of tyres on recently. £620 for a set of MPSS.

 

[jampudding]

If your choice is between a newer car and the Z4M then it seems clear that depreciation is going to be greater than running costs which in general is true.

 

[Beedub]

I've had a fair few interesting cars over the years and to my mind I think the Z4M should be considered a pretty good performance car buy today (if run over 2 years) with all costs considered. Buy one at £16k today and with 12k additional miles on it you should still get £12k for it in 2018. Ok, you might have to spend £3k on it with tyres, servicing and other bits, but £3.5k a year total cost isn't so bad....I guess the other option is a £16k Boxster/Cayman, which has the benefit of a 20k service interval.

Also, no offence Beedub, but I don't really think a SC car with 12k miles on it can really be offered up as any form of 'guide' to Z4M running costs

*is your car the lowest mile one on here...wonder what Hexagon would sell it for?!

the s/c wasn't in the question.... i didn't bring it up. my comment said the z4m is an expensive car to run with the potential issues that they come with, which is more than true....

 

[Beedub]

Pfffft...I'm not bothered...

The threads about running costs..

If your imparting wisdom on costs of the Z4M at least fill him in on the the car that's cost the most, but done the least...

Im talking about running costs, you've skewed it into mods / miles / and what I've spent in relation to those 2 markers.

These cars have potential issues which are more likely due to their age, what I've spent on UPGRADEs my particular car has nothing to do with where your trying go in a snake like pussy ass way, imo of course, maybe I'm reading it wrong.

ill say it again for the people that aren't getting it... z4m running costs in general imo are high, they have the potential to really hit hard with the pit-falls that come with the s54 and related hardware. Rod bearings, Cam issues, vanos, head gaskets at some point a large % of s54 owners will be getting one of those bank busters ..... IF i had an nice 3.0si personally i wouldnt make the change. Unless you can jump into a meticulously maintained car with a real trusted history i think as much as i love them i wouldnt change from an alpina or nicely spec'd 3.0si.

whether I've spent 100k or 10k on my car or done 100k miles or 12k miles I've have owned my car for nearly a decade, mods aside its still expensive to run as i service it as if its hitting the mile markers and would do regardless of its state of tune so i actually do qualify to talk about running costs...

now if we want to start a mod thread and talk about those costs I'm happy to discuss that their.

 

[Z4M-2006]

Snake like pussy ass... :lol: :lol:

Ok then....

Fill the OP in of how much the car has cost you per 1000 miles..

That would be a true indication of "your" Z4M running costs ....No ?

im sure he doesnt need to know how yours is the bestest out there,and the cleanest example even underneath!....

 

[Beedub]

Snake like pussy ass... :lol: :lol:

Ok then....

Fill the OP in of how much the car has cost you per 1000 miles..

That would be a true indication of "your" Z4M running costs ....No ?

im sure he doesnt need to know how yours is the bestest out there,and the cleanest example even underneath!....

lol their we go.....

if you really want to know the mods costs in relation to miles, I'm actually in derby west field tomorrow all day.... come and ask me and ill happily give you any info you want, id LOVE to catch up ??

However from a owning a z4m for nearly a decade what i see I'm one of the few with a low mile car that actually services as if my car is hitting the mile marker, and always has done, so the costs for servicing , preventative maintenance i can talk about.... What my upgrade, costs and car costs were / are are irrelevant to this thread, you don't have to agree or accept it, but stop the snakey stuff... its weak imo.

the underside looks good tho .....

 

[mj2k]

Just do it, life is too short.

I had the same Z4C twice, a brief interlude with a JCW before getting the M, best decision I made

Putting some cash aside each month for the shocker bills that might crop up, but servicing isn't 'that' much more if you enjoy cars & driving. As everything in life, it's all about prioritising what you want to spend your money on. Still getting 27.5mpg, so cannot complain there & every drive puts a smile on my face, even the commuting ones.

 

[Beedub]

OP or anyone with a 3.0sl or alpina thinking of making the move imo..... stick where you are because you will see a large rise in costs, we do have the hydraulic steering, m3 parts etc but it comes with some risks now.... i would wager the 3.0 models and alpina are significantly less likely to give you a whopper in comparison to todays ///Mz4.

 

[buzyg]

Enjoying the wee cat fight asside. :wink: My two peneth. My MR is probably the first car in 40+ years of driving that I have actually looked after reasonably well. I don't throw money at it.Not even a Stubby. But I knew the original owner, my old Dentist. and I've had it since 12k miles. Now om 39.5k, almost five years on. I run it as a weekend car but it's no Garage queen. (I just hate getting her wet )

I don't think it's been expensive to run at all. Around £2k per year thus far. excluding petrol. but including

New Tracker 600 (Lifetime cover)
Ins1 £900 (BMW Stealer)
2x Oil services £300
2xBrake fluid services £120
Ins2 Gearbox & Diff oil change. £800 (Indie)

2x front Disks & Pads £1300
1x rear Disks & Pads £400
Rear wing dent fixed after the obligatory unknown AWhole at Tesco. £300

1x set of Vreds £520
1x Set of MPS £500
2x Rear MPSS £310 (Bargain of the year)

Ins£1600 (I'm old)
Tax £(2415)

That's a lot less than my old Fiat Coupe cost to run for slightly better performance and a star light view.

 

[Z4M-2006]

Snake like pussy ass... :lol: :lol:

Ok then....

Fill the OP in of how much the car has cost you per 1000 miles..

That would be a true indication of "your" Z4M running costs ....No ?

im sure he doesnt need to know how yours is the bestest out there,and the cleanest example even underneath!....

lol their we go.....

if you really want to know the mods costs in relation to miles, I'm actually in derby west field tomorrow all day.... come and ask me and ill happily give you any info you want, id LOVE to catch up ??

However from a owning a z4m for nearly a decade what i see I'm one of the few with a low mile car that actually services as if my car is hitting the mile marker, and always has done, so the costs for servicing , preventative maintenance i can talk about.... What my upgrade, costs and car costs were / are are irrelevant to this thread, you don't have to agree or accept it, but stop the snakey stuff... its weak imo.

the underside looks good tho .....

Thanks...But no thanks..


Derby is around 180 mile round trip for me...

I would Luuurve to catch up....

 

[srhutch]

OP or anyone with a 3.0sl or alpina thinking of making the move imo..... stick where you are because you will see a large rise in costs, we do have the hydraulic steering, m3 parts etc but it comes with some risks now.... i would wager the 3.0 models and alpina are significantly less likely to give you a whopper in comparison to todays ///Mz4.

That's not true though. My costs haven't gone up dramatically. If your doing mega mile for sure, but 3-4k per year the costs are minimal.

 

[Angelus666]

Yep, I didn't mean the single cost of the buying SC, but more the other costs such as tyres/fuel/insurance/suspension/brakes that a 500bhp car requires

 

[MrPT]

Just totted up all the numbers from 2.5si ownership (3 years):

That's with about 6-7k annual mileage and includes fuel. "inc deprec" covers 10% depreciation per year. "exc mods" doesn't include depreciation or money spent on non-essential mods (stubby, ZHP, cosmetic upgrades etc). The 3rd year is much higher, but that includes Inspection 1, new discs/pads all round, a replacement bonnet, new front wishbones and bushes, seat foam and radiator fan.

Coming up to 100 days of M ownership... so far about £11/day, excluding depreciation and non-essential extras (new CSLs and tyres). That's just fuel and pro-rated VED, cleaning bits, insurance & breakdown, an oil/brake fluid service and parking permit. The VED + parking alone for the M are £775, versus £425 for the 2.5si, and it eats about 25% more fuel. Outside of London the additional insurance and parking costs won't be so much of a factor.

So, based on this and other M owners' posts, I think 50% additional running cost for your average weekend enthusiast vs. a 3.0i/2.5si/3.0si is a decent guideline. Let's say an additional £5/day - or enough to buy another non-M Z4 every 3 years! :?