Z4M Coupe future classic?

yes sorry my bad Z3M not Z4M its crazy those Z3M cost more than Z4M now at like £25k+ so will be £50k like E30 m3's in no time
 
As an ex Z3MC owner that pisses me off no end! I sold mine in 2013. :headbang:

Ah well. To be fair I wanted a car I could happily store outside, and the rustproofing on those wasn't as good as the Z4M. So it would only have been wasted with my new living arrangements - stuck in my storage 200 miles away for occasional use, whereas I get to see the Z4MC parked on my street every day, ready to go! :thumbsup:

I just have to forget about missing out on the jump in value!
 
This is the reason I'm keeping mine, garaging it and if necessary taking it off the road for a few months of the year.
 
I don't think they appreciate so much that you could retire on it so I don't look at it that way, I just love that it ticks most of my mini gt sports car boxes.

My only concern is when you have it long enough that parts become rare and unavailable.

It's comforting to know that it shares engine parts with e46m, but maybe you're better investment return is to stockpile z4 specific spares, and start accumulating write offs. Only of I had a barn and a couple of hectares like those hoarders you see in tv.
 
JAD said:
This is the reason I'm keeping mine, garaging it and if necessary taking it off the road for a few months of the year.

Out of interest - Is this purely for the prestige of owning an actual classic car, or financial gain to sell if it does become a sought after car?
 
What we should do is buy a write off as a forum car that we can pick the bits off when required :)
 
The car market looks like a huge bubble to me...play the scenario of £1.30 petrol and 3% interest rates and the car market would take a huge hit like it has done time and again before. There are so many epic cars being made that I really don't think the M will be anything super special in 10 years. They'll be a big market of R8's and 911's for £20-30k that will compete for attention over the M...
 
ranski said:
JAD said:
This is the reason I'm keeping mine, garaging it and if necessary taking it off the road for a few months of the year.

Out of interest - Is this purely for the prestige of owning an actual classic car, or financial gain to sell if it does become a sought after car?

I'm not interested in the monetary side of things in all honesty - if the car goes up in value and thus is cost free running it for X years, great. It's more that I love the car and love attending classic car shows (11th year of Silverstone Classics this year, will be on the BMWUK "stand").

As I will be moving from a flat in London to a house further out, I'll have more room and a garage, so two cars with one coming off the road when/as necessary is now possible.
 
Has anyone else picked up a copy? Just reading it now and it appears to be full of errors... Or my knowledge of my car is wrong!

It states to remove the run flats as this will help the ride - ///M cars were not fitted with run flats. It also states the coupe is a completely different setup to the roadster. Again; I don't think this is true of diff, shocks, rear subframe and Spring ratios?!
 
RickRob said:
Gustavo7 said:
Didn't read the article but think we all agree that the Z4MC is, indeed, a classic in the making.

The stiffest chassis BMW has ever made carries the multi award-winning S54 engine - the last N/A inline-6 M engine? - in its latest and most advanced incarnation. The last two-seater fixed head coupe to be made by BMW is equipped with M3 CSL's larger front brakes and faster hidraulically-assisted steering rack, whilst gear changes are made via an H-pattern manual gearbox. Designed by Chris Bangle.

What's not to like?

The hard top? :poke:
The appalling seats/stereo :headbang:
 
goon said:
RickRob said:
Gustavo7 said:
Didn't read the article but think we all agree that the Z4MC is, indeed, a classic in the making.

The stiffest chassis BMW has ever made carries the multi award-winning S54 engine - the last N/A inline-6 M engine? - in its latest and most advanced incarnation. The last two-seater fixed head coupe to be made by BMW is equipped with M3 CSL's larger front brakes and faster hidraulically-assisted steering rack, whilst gear changes are made via an H-pattern manual gearbox. Designed by Chris Bangle.

What's not to like?

The hard top? :poke:
The appalling seats/stereo :headbang:

What don't you like about the seats and stereo? I am quite happy with mine. :)
 
JAD said:
Has anyone else picked up a copy? Just reading it now and it appears to be full of errors... Or my knowledge of my car is wrong!

It states to remove the run flats as this will help the ride - ///M cars were not fitted with run flats. It also states the coupe is a completely different setup to the roadster. Again; I don't think this is true of diff, shocks, rear subframe and Spring ratios?!

It is a known that the MCs ide a lot stiffer with the MR generally thought as more compliant
Runflats :D that's a definite fook up on whoever wrote the review
As for values , prices & future classic status ? Snakes & ladders as there are so many differentials to the actual cars owned .
Reality is they fluctuate seasonally but continue to hold steady . 10 yrs old for many :wink: still no surge in values , i suspect another 10yrs needed to really see where they will be
 
Yeah I think the car will need to be 15 years and older before the prices rocket just like Z3M's did as they currently cost more than Z4M's and are mainly around 1998 period now
 
goldbcfc said:
Yeah I think the car will need to be 15 years and older before the prices rocket just like Z3M's did as they currently cost more than Z4M's and are mainly around 1998 period now

Although the Z3M's were introduced in 1998 and a total of 609 cars were sold in the UK, there are 2 different variants: the S50 which sold until 2001 of which 492 were sold, and the S54 of which only 117 were sold. The S54 Z3MC started to attract "strong money" way back in 2003, when Hexagon started to purchase low-mileage examples at very high prices, and from then on, the S54 Z3MC market has always operated somewhat differently from the S50 market. A quick look on Pistonheads just now shows only one RHD S54 Z3MC is presently for sale (£44,995) and I expect that by now most of the low-mileage examples are in semi-permanent ownership. In comparison, the S50 Z3MCs have only really increased in price over the past few years, particularly the few low-milers that appear, but there's at least a 33% differential between the best examples of the 2 variants of similar mileage.
 
yeah I think the basic going rate for a good Z3M is £25k now so more than a Z4M cost at the moment unless it super low mileage. I didnt even know bmw fitted the S54 engine to the Z3M no wonder the prices vary so much less than 200 made for UK is going to keep rocketing surely

how many Z4M's did UK receive in either Z4MR or Z4MC?
 
:Exdos as usual , is probably bang on the money, z3m'm have gone up now but it's the few s 54's that go for the most , especially when in the hands of the high end Main dealers or specialist sports car dealers. I miss my gorgeous imola z3mr, but sold it as 70k so was afraid of putting miles on it and to be honest I had fallen out of love with the tart's bedroom interior, too 80's.a black interior and I would have kept it possibly. That has gone up, 5 or 6k in four years since I sold it. The z4 'c will I guess gradually go up in a few more years with imo , the coupe a bit more than the roadster. My cousin has just paid 14k for a 34000 mile 1984 Capri 2.8i with turbo, so most old stuff goes up in time. Probably the best scenario is to use sparingly and enjoy , not to expect to double your money but to have a pleasant feeling of " I did well there " when you sell it for what you paid or 2 or 3 k more., been away from forum for quite a while as still ferreting away building a beach buggy, going to be the one I won't mind parking without an electric fence and security guard when I go to the shops to avoid trolley dents !! :thumbsup:
 
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