Z4 Steptronic gearbox responsiveness

eurgain

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 North-East Wales
Coming from the thread that deals with preference for the types of gearbox, I have noticed some people suggesting that there can be a delay of up to a second before the Z4's auto/steptronic 'box changes down to the desired gear. This is so alien to me, I actually went out ant did some research in my car today.

Basics. The 'box has two modes: normal and sport. Sport mode locks out fifth gear, and is more ready to change down. Sport mode can be engaged by moving the selector lever to the left. It is also engaged when the "Sport" button is pressed.

More subtle, is that the 'box will change its shift pattern in the short-term in accordance with your driving style. It will go for lower gears if your throttle pedal input is rapidly changing. Even more subtle, the box may change its shift pattern to accord with your driving style over a long period; in other words, it will try to decide whether you are a cruiser or a tear-arse and adjust its behaviour accordingly.

Since I am looking to find a "wost case", here is what I did. I trundled around at about 50mph for a while, with no sudden movements of the throttle and using no more than a third of the pedal's travel. Then, I mashed the pedal to activate the kick-down switch. There was a delay before the engine began sailing towards the redline of no more than 0,5s. I repeated this a couple of times with the same result (which confirms my impression from normal driving).

Doing the same test in with the Sport button activated, of course, the starting point is from one gear lower, but the time taken to change down feels almost instantaneous.

Using the 'box in manual, I have never been able to discern any delay for downchanges: the box seems to react almost instantly to shoving the lever forward. However, I have noticed a reluctance to change up sometimes. By that I mean, the 'box seems slow (up to 1s) to respond to a manual request to change up, and it will occasionally ignore the request altogether.

That is my experience in a UK-spec 3.0 Z4 with some sort of sports package (it has 17-inch wheels, rides very low, and has a rock-solid ride). I do wonder whether the automatic 'boxes are set up differently in different countries and in different spec cars.

Maybe that is why my experience of the automatic gearbox is hugely positive whereas others might not find it so satisfactory.

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I find the Steptronic does have a slight delay in downshifting when using the lever in the manual mode.
However, with the sport button on, (and after some practice) that slight delay coupled with quicker "sport" throttle response, allows me to do very pleasant rev-matching throttle "blips" when downshifting the box manually. That, coupled with the mufflectomy, rewards me with a wonderful "vroom-burble-burble-burble" when downshifting in that way. I like it! :evil:
 
eurgain

What you say largely makes sense. I think however the adaptive gearboxes and engines take longer to learn a new pattern than you think. My experience comes from an X5 with which I sometimes tow a 2 ton Jeep and trailer. It's at least 20 miles before the whole thing settles down and can pull it like a train. Once uncoupled it's about the same to return to being a normal car. No idea what the electronics of engine and box are doing but it's dramatic coupled of course to my adjustment as a driver of its performance.

On the Zed I actually have steering wheel paddles fitted and therefore can control all my shifts from the wheel in an instant. The only hesitation I ever get is 1) If I am more enthusiastic about a downshift than the engine/box feels it will accept and then it wil make me wait. This is rare as is a rapid upchange from first to second at certain throttle openings, which seems to fool to change and it hesitates.

Aside this I never get any delay and actually believe the total cycle from power on in one gear to on in the next is quicker than most manuals could ever achieve it...

The one thing I wish I could do at times is prevent the change to over sensitive throttle pedal when in sport mode. All it does is makes it more sensitive and therefore less controllable, but no doubt fools customers into believing it's faster and more powerful car
 
The only issue I had with the steptronic was in down shifting. Coming into a 90 degree or better turn, I was not always able to get from third to second, say at about 4.5 K rev in third and want second gear before entering the turn to be able to use the engine to power through the turm ( keep in mind that I am also braking before the turn ). Not always could I get the car to down shift. I changed the airfilter to a high flow type and I have not had an issue since. The funny thing is I am also getting better gas mileage as well, by 3-4 mpg better than before the filter. I have a reuseable oil filter, and when I have it out to clean, I put the OEM back in for a few days and I can feel a difference and the mpg drops. I average 35-36 on the highway and 27-28 in town with the high flow airfilter.
 
I think that when driving flat out it would always be nicer to have a manual car, even if the changes are the same speed as the auto (which they are, give or take the odd millisecond) but for the other 95% of the time the auto is a better choice (my circumstances).

Would you have an auto again, or manual?
 
I had an odd one. In sport mode, shifting the steptronic myself, I was unable to go to 5th gear when I was at about 95. I always thought that wierd, but I guess that this explains it. I didn't notice it in the manual when I read it.
Basics. The 'box has two modes: normal and sport. Sport mode locks out fifth gear, and is more ready to change down. Sport mode can be engaged by moving the selector lever to the left. It is also engaged when the "Sport" button is pressed.
 
In my experience, it doesn't really lock out 5th gear completely. Just holds off shifting to 5th for a loooooong time, and of course, with Sport mode on, and shifting manually, it will hold every gear until redline if you are accelerating hard. If you take it all the way to redline in 4th, it will go to fifth. If you hold a steady speed at 95 for a while, it will eventually give you 5th, you just have to be *very* patient.
 
Drive an SMG II, DCT or proper Steptronic Auto and you can see why people complain about SMG I (Z4, 330Ci as SSG). It the jerkiness of the changes, the odd feel of each shift and the flimsy paddles that are counter intuitive I hate. The paddles on an SMG II are so much better and work the 'right' way IMO - down with the left, up with the right. But even SMG II takes some getting used to and feels a bit jerky. If you compare the auto mode of SMG I or even II to a proper auto, the smoothness and refinement makes the latter two feel rough as a bag of bolts.

Having said that the tech always improves and from what I have heard, the new DCT is now virtually no compromise - a perfect auto and manual in one.
 
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