I my god dude, what's your problem? Have to have the last word don't you? You read the thread again and realise I have said nothing wrong and you have taken it the wrong way.Well tough I'm having the last word hahahahjahaa!goldbcfc said:GuidoK said:goldbcfc said:A good example was the other night I mentioned buying a Audi TT as there brilliant drivers cars.
The TT is only a good chassis (relatively) when it's a coupe. The roadster is heavier and weaker. It is a very heavy car; I'm comparing the first gen 6 cyl with the e85 3.0i:
The e85 3.0i weighs in at 1295kg, the tt roadster 3.2 at 1560kg. Yes thats right, over 250kg heavier... (the coupe is lardy heavy to begin with)..
Same goes for a nissan 350Z roadster: 1610kg... Thats almost the same as my volvo xc70 diesel(thats only 11kg heaver on the registration form :lol: ...)
Thats where you can see where a good design shines. Whether its the BMW E85, porsche boxster or honda S2000. All designed as a roadster, with a stiff chassis and still (relatively) light (sub 1300kg). Those are the cars that started with a good chassis in the first place.
Where the honda is clearly the lightest in design. You can see that in the suspension arms, size of the diff etc etc (as a design its a bit like an mx5 on steroids). The other two are designed to handle bigger engines and more torque.
I'm sure kerb weight is around 1350kg for smaller engines and mine is around 1400kg in my 3.01 with me in its almost 1500kg, but yeah I see your points. Having driven all 3 cars I'd rate Z4 3rd, Porsche 2nd S2000 1st on driver feel. I didn't realise those nissan 350Z were so heavy 1600kg seems a lot a 6 series is 1700kg I'm sure my old E46 convertible was 1650kg too.
Zeld4 said:It probably would have already stopped if you lot weren't moaning about it all the timepvr said:Fixed that for you![]()
Next person to post on this thread is a rotten egg!!
Honestly people moaning about the thread should be locked no ones begging for your comments so why bother but still you read and comment on the thread its quite funny really?. Read the hole thread start to finish the 99% of people are agreeing but yet a few coupe owners intent on ruining the thread that keep coming back feel the need to still be here. Are coupe owners seriously that bored? find another thread to drag up old Z4R vs Z4C debates not mine ....see ya'll later
(thats only 11kg heaver on the registration form :lol: ...)