Z4 m vs 335i 360hp
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BMW about to do an upgrade for the 35i. Not up as high as 360 though. They must have some concerns about the longevity of the turbos and engine I guess.
Mate has a 335i and it is very quick in a straight line but can't keep up with the 'M' on the twisties. The interior trim is much better put together on the 3 series and the i drive makes the 'computer' in the Zed look like a Commodore 64
Mate has a 335i and it is very quick in a straight line but can't keep up with the 'M' on the twisties. The interior trim is much better put together on the 3 series and the i drive makes the 'computer' in the Zed look like a Commodore 64
To be honest I found the Z4 35i very similar to drive to the 335i my mate has. His is a convertible so they were very similar except there were no seats in the back of the Z4 The DCT gearbox makes for very rapid progress without the effort of working the gears manually. Left me a little bit cold TBH and if I was to get one I'd go for a manual like Breaker, I'd swap a few tenths of a second to sixty for a more involving driving experience.
The 'M' is a more hardcore experience and it depends what you want from your driving. The quality of the build in the new Z4 is way ahead of the old car and it feels much more 'grown up' than the old car.
The DCT gearbox makes for very rapid progress without the effort of working the gears manually. Left me a little bit cold TBH and if I was to get one I'd go for a manual like Breaker, I'd swap a few tenths of a second to sixty for a more involving driving experience.The 'M' is a more hardcore experience and it depends what you want from your driving. The quality of the build in the new Z4 is way ahead of the old car and it feels much more 'grown up' than the old car.
FirstKnight
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I had a 335i Coupe before the ///M and I had it chipped to approx. 360bhp too. It had incredible overtaking thrust - faster than the Z4M. Well, it felt faster anyway.
But the chipped 335i couldn't put the power down. It struggled in standard form really so with more power the rear wheels simply scrambled for grip and precious launch time was lost.
The Z4M is a revelation in handling ability and it puts the power down much more assuredly by comparison. Of course, spend more on the 335i and add better suspension and an LSD and it will trouble the Z4M on most roads, I'm sure.
But the chipped 335i couldn't put the power down. It struggled in standard form really so with more power the rear wheels simply scrambled for grip and precious launch time was lost.
The Z4M is a revelation in handling ability and it puts the power down much more assuredly by comparison. Of course, spend more on the 335i and add better suspension and an LSD and it will trouble the Z4M on most roads, I'm sure.
toplad said:
To be honest I think that would have been down to the driver rather than the car. When I drove the 997 turbo and then got back into my own car it felt pedestrian in comparison. It can comfortably outhandle the Z4M as well in my opinion. I'd have one in a heartbeat but it's out of my league.
dgm said:
I'd like say it was all down to me
, but it was a straight road and all I had to do was get the car in the right gear when he floored it and swap the cogs as fast as I could 
, it was also a triptronic, so that won't have helped It was a 996 turbo by the way, not a 997, think the 996 is 420 BHP.
Also had a few runs with an RS4, they didn't get away either.
From standstill, you could get from 0-100mph in 12 seconds if you are pretty fast with the cogs. I have seen anything between 11,7 to 12.8 secs in various magazines. A chipped 335 with 360 horsepower should be able to do this on 11 seconds flat.
From a rolling start I think that the advantage should probabbly be the same. At that speed, the distance is 44.4 meters, which corresponds to 10 car lengths.
BUT, if the 335 has just been fettled it could have fine tuning issues that you could probably take advantage of.
May the force be with you!
From a rolling start I think that the advantage should probabbly be the same. At that speed, the distance is 44.4 meters, which corresponds to 10 car lengths.
BUT, if the 335 has just been fettled it could have fine tuning issues that you could probably take advantage of.
May the force be with you!
After having had my Z4M for only a few days I accelerated when I went into a national limit ..... in 3rd .... as fast as the car would.
I was quite impressed - nice and smooth, quite quick, lovely noise .... until I saw and got overtaken by the car behind which hauled me in and went past like I was going backwards !
It was a 911 turbo. I've no idea of the age but it didn't look brand new. It caught me as I accelerated in 3rd like a 1000cc motorbike would - the acceleration was stunning. I hadn't really paid much attention to him but it must have amused him to have totally destroyed the acceleration of my car
I was quite impressed - nice and smooth, quite quick, lovely noise .... until I saw and got overtaken by the car behind which hauled me in and went past like I was going backwards !
It was a 911 turbo. I've no idea of the age but it didn't look brand new. It caught me as I accelerated in 3rd like a 1000cc motorbike would - the acceleration was stunning. I hadn't really paid much attention to him but it must have amused him to have totally destroyed the acceleration of my car
That`s just gutting when that happens isn`t it. I can keep up with all manner of naturally aspirated Porkas (996s and 997s) but will always get shown a clean pair of heels by a turbo, the in gear thrust these things have is incredible. Still can`t bring myself to buy one though.
My old fella has an X50 996tt, I can confirm it's in a different league performance wise to my MC. It's almost superbike fast, the problem is you arrive at corners way too quickly and have to lean heavily on the brakes. Given similar ability drivers, the 911tt would leave the MC without a problem.
All I say chaps is, on that road, on that day the Z4M C kept up with the 996 turbo from 60-140 mph, I saw the backend drop and him change down twice, don't know if the porker was in the best gear, but there was nothing in it.
Also don't forget triptronics are slower and you need a hell on a lot more power to pull away once rolling, 0-60 and 0-100 times don't mean that much on the move
Also don't forget triptronics are slower and you need a hell on a lot more power to pull away once rolling, 0-60 and 0-100 times don't mean that much on the move
1st of all the thread is about Z4m vs 335i with 360hp , not 911 turbo 
. 2nd of all i had a race with a 335i from our greek forum bmw-motorsport.gr with 360hp and i couldnt catch up , very close , but i couldnt catch him. 2nd gears 50km/h , and another time with 2ng gear 60km/h. 2nd time was better for me but, but i still lost
. 2nd of all i had a race with a 335i from our greek forum bmw-motorsport.gr with 360hp and i couldnt catch up , very close , but i couldnt catch him. 2nd gears 50km/h , and another time with 2ng gear 60km/h. 2nd time was better for me but, but i still lost 