Z4 M coupe
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ga41 said:
stop it
that looks like a comptech or paxton centrifuge blower, nice kit very oem looking. One thing i liked about the rotrex is its small and light but produces a lot of power, its more like a belt driven turbo than a conventional blower.
Forgive me if its been covered but didnt see it as I flicked through. Servicing is the stated mileage or two years whichever comes first not just a simple case of mileage only, also there is coolant and brake fluid to factor in every 4 and two years respectively I think at about £150 a pop each.
Then there is extended warranty if you want, I pay £69 a month with BMW with £100xs full cover, top cover is around £1k per year with no xs, more with roadside assist.
didnt mean to put a downer on things, its still cheap motoring if like me you only do 6k a year, a service with fluid every two years
Then there is extended warranty if you want, I pay £69 a month with BMW with £100xs full cover, top cover is around £1k per year with no xs, more with roadside assist.
didnt mean to put a downer on things, its still cheap motoring if like me you only do 6k a year, a service with fluid every two years
its a done deal now so the cost is what it is, to be honest its not so bad if you put it down to miles driven and think of it more like a hoby that takes you places rather than an expence, its much cheaper than golf club membership. i think its going to get harder and harder to own these type of cars as more and more legislation comes into play along with rising road tax as a penalty for owning such a car so for me its now or never.
The sooner we use all the petrol the sooner we start using alternative fuel and so save the plannet sooner, i for one am doing my bit.
The sooner we use all the petrol the sooner we start using alternative fuel and so save the plannet sooner, i for one am doing my bit.
Sounds great.
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ok first newbie question
whats with the kangaroo motion when setting of and in second? i read on here its not uncommon but whats the nack to preventing it
when entering a roundabout from stop or low speed if i push a little it starts jerking and only way to stop it is back off on the throttle then gently re apply the throttle, not good for smooth entry into traffic, whats the trick?
its not TC, its not in sport mode and engine is warm
whats with the kangaroo motion when setting of and in second? i read on here its not uncommon but whats the nack to preventing it
when entering a roundabout from stop or low speed if i push a little it starts jerking and only way to stop it is back off on the throttle then gently re apply the throttle, not good for smooth entry into traffic, whats the trick?
its not TC, its not in sport mode and engine is warm
Liverpool
I test drove a coupe a few days ago. I was luckily enough that the indie selling the car allowed me and my girlfriend out together so I got a good drive of it. First roundabout I came to I kangaroo'd all the way round it with my girlfriend shouting what the hells going on n me just laffing away like an idiot. Slightly 
but mostly 
The car in question had a slightly iffy service book that I wanted to get verified but it's sold from under my feet now :thumbsdown:
Ah well, gotta keep truckin on with the hunt! Must say though, I really cant wait to own one cos its great to drive and an absolute hoot!!!!
but mostly The car in question had a slightly iffy service book that I wanted to get verified but it's sold from under my feet now :thumbsdown:
Ah well, gotta keep truckin on with the hunt! Must say though, I really cant wait to own one cos its great to drive and an absolute hoot!!!!
alfamale said:
mmm-five says it's the CDV and he's somewhat right. It does cause some kangarooing but mostly it's just a quirk of the car. It doesnt like sudden inputs. You'll get the hang of it soon enough and you wont kangaroo off the lights anymore. I had my CDV completely removed and i havent noticed that much of a difference. If im not smooth on the throttle and clutch the car will still bounce all over the place. You get used to the drivetrain's peculiarities quickly though so i wouldnt worry about it.
Just thought I would post a few comparisons between the Z4 M coupe and my previous car a supercharged Honda S2000, this is not a slagging off mail or justification its my gut feeling after having the Z for a week and the S is fresh in my mind
The Honda has a slightly bigger power to weight ratio coming in at 298 BHP/ton compared to the Z at 227 BHP/ton but the Z makes up for this with much more torque the Z producing 365 N/m at 8000 rpm whilst the S2000 has 284 N/m at the same RPM but drops to 230 N/m at 4000 rpm, the upshot of this is while the Honda has the raw power to beat the Z in a sprint it needs constant shifting to keep the engine on the boil and consequently is not a relaxing car to drive fast.
The Z is 250 Kg heavier than the S2000 and it feels it, I was warned that the M coupe has hard suspension but don’t find it too bad, somehow it is harder sprung but moves more than the S2000, you feel the bumps more in the Z but the S reacts more to road surface imperfections so can be upset by bumps mid corner, the front definitely lifts more under acceleration than the S2000 which stays flatter, this could be by design allowing the rear to squat and get the power down something the S2000 is notoriously hard to get right from a standing start.
Things I love
The noise of the straight 6 in sport mode, the torque of the engine and the build quality and finish of interior
Things I don’t like
Heavy steering, slightly dull feel and that clutch I cant imagine why BMW let it be this way I cant see one point for defending it, saying you will learn to get it right is covering up a flaw in what is a high end car, will I get used to it? Most likely, it certainly wont put me off owning one.
Like I say I have only had it a week and as such not had time to tame it yet but wanted the Honda fresh in mind to make some kind of comparison.
If I wanted a more track focused car it would be the Honda, it’s a delight to drive on tight twisty roads, it takes a bit more involvement, I think that’s why the reward is there when you get it right, if you get it wrong these things will swap ends in a blink of an eye, The Z coupe is more refined it drives very well and gets you there in comfort and style, its no slouch or barge its just not as focused for track style driving but then again that’s not what I bought it for. You may feel its not a fair comparison as the Honda is modified producing 50% more power than when it left the factory but that’s what I had before the Z 4M.
I’m very happy with my purchase and feel there’s a lot more to get out of it when I’ve had chance to learn its limits.
The Honda has a slightly bigger power to weight ratio coming in at 298 BHP/ton compared to the Z at 227 BHP/ton but the Z makes up for this with much more torque the Z producing 365 N/m at 8000 rpm whilst the S2000 has 284 N/m at the same RPM but drops to 230 N/m at 4000 rpm, the upshot of this is while the Honda has the raw power to beat the Z in a sprint it needs constant shifting to keep the engine on the boil and consequently is not a relaxing car to drive fast.
The Z is 250 Kg heavier than the S2000 and it feels it, I was warned that the M coupe has hard suspension but don’t find it too bad, somehow it is harder sprung but moves more than the S2000, you feel the bumps more in the Z but the S reacts more to road surface imperfections so can be upset by bumps mid corner, the front definitely lifts more under acceleration than the S2000 which stays flatter, this could be by design allowing the rear to squat and get the power down something the S2000 is notoriously hard to get right from a standing start.
Things I love
The noise of the straight 6 in sport mode, the torque of the engine and the build quality and finish of interior
Things I don’t like
Heavy steering, slightly dull feel and that clutch I cant imagine why BMW let it be this way I cant see one point for defending it, saying you will learn to get it right is covering up a flaw in what is a high end car, will I get used to it? Most likely, it certainly wont put me off owning one.
Like I say I have only had it a week and as such not had time to tame it yet but wanted the Honda fresh in mind to make some kind of comparison.
If I wanted a more track focused car it would be the Honda, it’s a delight to drive on tight twisty roads, it takes a bit more involvement, I think that’s why the reward is there when you get it right, if you get it wrong these things will swap ends in a blink of an eye, The Z coupe is more refined it drives very well and gets you there in comfort and style, its no slouch or barge its just not as focused for track style driving but then again that’s not what I bought it for. You may feel its not a fair comparison as the Honda is modified producing 50% more power than when it left the factory but that’s what I had before the Z 4M.
I’m very happy with my purchase and feel there’s a lot more to get out of it when I’ve had chance to learn its limits.
It's mostly just a question of practice, an extended trip around town in stop/start traffic will definitely help with the practice even if it is a bit dull...I still have the CDV and don't have any problems anymore. What is more alarming is when you try your first full bore start and get a crunch through the gear change. I think this is alleviated if you ditch the CDV but my solution was to slip some more clutch or otherwise start in 2nd as Vman mentioned above.