Z4 m coupe or new z4 3.0

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rob172cup

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Im in a dilemma i very nearly bouht a new z4 3.0 in white because i loved how it looks! But now ive figured out how much money id loose and just couldnt do it. So im now looking at the z4m coupe for about 25k, im new to BMW so just after opinions. What will a M coupe be worth in 3-4 years? Also what is it like compared to the new Z4????

Any opinions advice welcome

Cheers

Rob
 
Dont know what each car's worth will be in 3-4 years but compared with each other they couldnt be any different.

The new car will be more comfortable, more quiet, with a much better interior and better fuel economy. The M Coupe will be much harder in every sense of the word. Quite a bit faster, noisier, thirstier and with a much harder ride but so much fun. Depends what you're after mate.
 
///M all the way, save a fortune to begin with will depreciate less, and the money saved will help offset the increase in running costs.
 
If you are going to keep M Coupe for 2 years or less, then M Coupe. But if you are going to keep your next car longer, then new Z4. I personally think M coupe will be too dated after 2 years, whilst new Z4 are now still quite rare on the road. If I have to choose between style and performance, I choose style. sDrive3.0i still gives you over 250bhp though.
 
ksher said:
If you are going to keep M Coupe for 2 years or less, then M Coupe. But if you are going to keep your next car longer, then new Z4. I personally think M coupe will be too dated after 2 years, whilst new Z4 are now still quite rare on the road. If I have to choose between style and performance, I choose style. sDrive3.0i still gives you over 250bhp though.
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I doubt the E85/E86 Zeds will look dated in a few years, the Coupe especially is a beautiful car- a future classic. I think being 'dated' in a few years is the last thing of concern. In fact the new Z4 looks different but you can still see the old Z4 lines. I choose performance over style personally but like much of both :thumbsup:

I think they should try both - a new Z4 and an M and take it from there :). As they drive differently they will be drawn to one or the other, choice made.
 
M Coupe all the way, go test drive one up to 8K revs and stick those flappy paddles up the salesmans arse :thumbsup: :lol:

I think white cars will look dated more than the sleek lines of my coupe ... in 2 yrs. And I think the M coupe will be much much rarer than the new z4 in not a long time at all, will the 3.0's suffer from mixing with debadged lesser models ? I think so.....
 
I'm trying not to be biased but the coupe doesn't look too dated compared to the sDrives. Of course I like the ragged front lights and strong ridges on the bonnet, and no doubt the interior is miles better then the E85/86.

But many people around me agreed the new zed looks better from the front, but the roof looks "stuck on" from side/rear. Coupe looks much more slick from these views. And also I like the small grooves we get on the Coupe's roof :thumbsup:
 
Z4M's are a good buy at the moment. Do your homework on running costs though between the M and the 3.0si.

By the way, my new 35i has the performance of an M and the running costs of the 3.0si, so you could wait for those to come down, but if it's a hard nosed sports car your after, get the M or 3.0si 1st gen.. :wink:
 
Breaker said:
Z4M's are a good buy at the moment. Do your homework on running costs though between the M and the 3.0si.

By the way, my new 35i has the performance of an M and the running costs of the 3.0si, so you could wait for those to come down, but if it's a hard nosed sports car your after, get the M or 3.0si 1st gen.. :wink:
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Agree. Z4M Coupe/Roadster AUC are just above £23k. The price of sDrive35i starts from £35k. Get 1 when used car is 2.5 years old.
 
Already gave my opinion but i dont think anyone would mind if i go again right?

The cheapest new Z4 in Cyprus, the sDrive23i (what a ridiculous naming scheme..) costs about 7 thousand Euro more for what i bought my M for. Really tough decision i tell ya... :rofl:
 
if you're buying the car for fun, get the Z4M. if you're buying the car to worry about value, depreciation, etc--get the newer Z4.

M's are timeless versions of cars
 
Z4 M Roadster are even cheaper. I have just looked at some AUC. Loads of 3-year-old Z4MR with sat nav, bluetooth, CD changer are only £22k with less than 30k miles on the clock. Will the new Z4 sDrive35i's price be like that in 2.5 years time?
 
ksher said:
Z4 M Roadster are even cheaper. I have just looked at some AUC. Loads of 3-year-old Z4MR with sat nav, bluetooth, CD changer are only £22k with less than 30k miles on the clock. Will the new Z4 sDrive35i's price be like that in 2.5 years time?
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At face value I'd agree with you, but, I don't know! Too many factors around these days that can hit cars like the M.

Road tax in the UK is set to rise again next year with higher end cars being hit more. The 35i may seem a more attractive car to people wanting similar performance with less cost. Who knows. It's always a gamble buying cars which is why depreciation doesn't factor into the cars I've bought. If I like it and it ticks most of the boxes on my list, I buy it. I don't buy a car to save money!! :P

Don't forget how much the M cost when new! It was a little over priced IMO.

I do have a very strong feeling that the Z4M of old could be the last Z4M though! Then again I think there is a lot of mileage left yet for the bi-turbo 3L engine. The 3.5i puts out the same torque as the V8 M3 engine already! Maybe that could be basis of the new M engine?

So on this basis now could be the best time to buy a Z4M. They may come down even more next year mind. It's like playing poker!!
 
I had the same decision to make and went for an MC because

(a) I found one with a my perfect spec that had been well looked after and it was a good price

(b) The number of good Z4Ms is dwindeling. They weren't common to begin with and I have learned that the best time to buy a car is when it's 2-3 years old.

I realised that if I didn't go for an M now - I probably never would. In 1, 2 maybe 5 years time, something will come along that I want more but at least I'll have had the joy on the M in the meantime.
 
Breaker said:
At face value I'd agree with you, but, I don't know! Too many factors around these days that can hit cars like the M.

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Very true.
I think the Z4 M could hold it`s value well longer term but who knows. I`ve just seen G/H plate E30 M3 Evo Sports up at £40,000-45,000 with 90,000 miles on them .Many of those cars are in need of a restoration today so that`s a lot of dosh but some people are paying those prices. Those cars can be quite expensive to maintain and only return 24mpg if you`re lucky for 200-230bhp (albeit in a 1200kg structure). The Evo Sport was made in numbers of just 600 or so in total. I think around 17,000 E30 M3`s were made in total (including the rarer models) and they have been going up in value for a few years now. Who knows what the futures holds for Z4 M pricing. Z4 M Coupes are more rare than the std non-Evo E30 M3`s. However, the E30 M3 was a race bred homogolation special where as the Z4 M is a great engine chucked into the Z4 shell and tuned (improved suspension, brakes etc over the non-M models) - but it`s not a race homogolated machine.

But I like to think or guess that the Z4 M`s in good condition could be priced very well in another 15 or so years, and probably won`t suffer rott problems like cars of the late 1980`s do today so could be well sought after.
 
This is going to sound a little stupid, but put the money aside for a moment. Try both cars, a few times if you must, but go with the car you love! :evil: (unless the thought of depreciation will stop you enjoying it)

Reference my stupid comment... the reason for it, as has been mentioned you're looking at depreciation Vs running costs and on balance you may break even. As Breaker said, it's a gamble at the moment because things are changing... the anti-car lobby is in ascendancy! You only have to look at a lot of the performance machines and how they're swapping cylinders and CCs for forced induction.

Finally, there seem to be a few people around with some excellent ex-demo deals on the new model... try and catch a dealer at the end of the year looking for a boost to their sales figures?

Usual caveat to all this... IMO!

To be honest, if it was my money I wouldn't be so bold! I don't think. I'd probably make a TCO spreadsheet!

Nice dilemma though. Fantastic shortlist! Good luck :thumbsup:
 
Wondermike said:
Darren M said:
I`ve just seen G/H plate E30 M3 Evo Sports up at £40,000-45,000 with 90,000 miles on them...
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£40-45k is that a typo Darren?

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Afraid not. Last time I looked at the prices they were around 25k so I thought but a few cars in this range, but whether or not they`ll sell is another matter.
Here`s an example
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/75210auto-editauto-editauto-editauto-editauto-editauto-edit


Also,
G plate Red 17k miles 1 owner car £59,995

H plate Red no milage but new timing chain parts & oil pump £36,995

G plate Black, new BMW block & pistons £45,995

H plate Black, new BMW block & pistons £45,995
 
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