Z4 for everyday

What do you all think of this colour
It's split opinion in my family

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mjoshyuk23 said:
Why so many available
Is it just the stigma attached to an auto
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Where do you get your figures regarding the amount for sale, I just checked ebay and out of 528 z's for sale, only 108 are autos, 378 are manuals, Hardly a huge amount.
I have been on a few spirited runs with other Z owners and have never had the feeling that my car is lacking, all depends what you want :thumbsup:
 
mjoshyuk23 said:
What do you all think of this colour
It's split opinion in my family

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609127686289?minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=sponsored&postcode=dl117qq&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&model=Z4&make=BMW&page=2
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Not my cup of tea, if you like it, then that's all that matters :thumbsup:
 
3.0i or 3.0Si for me all the way. Anything else is just a compromise and the value zeds are at now a 2.0/2.2 definitely makes no sense. You can literally pick up a similar 3.0 for very little extra so why bother with anything else. Manual or auto is the only real choice and that will come down to personal preference and the type/duration of the driving your going to do in it. Stop/start city rush hour traffic I would go auto anything else I would go with the manual for the extra involvement. Having driven every version of the pre-facelifts I can say from experience there is a very noticeable between the smaller engines and a 3.0i, particular the 2.2, anyone who says any different is just kidding themselves really. As for weight, the difference between the 2.2 and the 3.0 is very very little, basically its a few stone and your not going to notice that on a 1,300kg car. I have also driven an awful lot of E46's and the like over the years 320i through 330i with both 5 and 6 speed boxes. I never noticed any decernable pattern of a 6 speed and its clutch being less smooth etc. That's more likely down to the clutches concerned being worn differently and gear oil. New clucthes and gearbox oil change would no doubt even things up. This is bore out by checking real oem and most of the clutch and associated parts being identical. The optimistic 0-60 times for a 2.2 and pessimistic 3.0 times bear no relation to official figures and that whole post smacks of someone deluding themselves about a purchase so please don't buy into other peoples garbage.
 
The best handling Z4's are the four cylinder models, a lighter car with the weight farther back at the front makes for quite a nimble car, I bought a 3.0 more because I like the noise of a 6, but if you want a car to throw about the 150bhp 2.0 is a good car!
 
mjoshyuk23 said:
What do you all think of this colour
It's split opinion in my family

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609127686289?minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=sponsored&postcode=dl117qq&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&model=Z4&make=BMW&page=2
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The colour of a car is so important - for you to live with and when parting company when you want to move on - sorry but that colour is awful - looks like a cowshite green - if that's a special order colour they must have been colour blind :cry:

By the way you can feel the difference between a 2.5 and 3.0 - I tried both before settling on a 3.0 - it is noticeably quicker although I wouldn't disagree the smaller engine is more nimble - the early 2.5 only has 5 gears as well - I admit it's also a class thing - when I see another zed the first thing I look for is the badge on the side to see if it's a real zed or a poor man's imposter :rofl:
 
mjoshyuk23 said:
What do you all think of this colour
It's split opinion in my family

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609127686289?minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=sponsored&postcode=dl117qq&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&model=Z4&make=BMW&page=2
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Nope! Don't like that at all lol. Don't like the smaller alloys either. This car also doesn't have heated seats.

Also, one more thing, the fan control dials look odd. They look like they have been changed. Zoom in on the console. You can find better.
 
For a daily driver, if you have to drive in urban areas, a 3.0Si Auto would be my choice. So effortless, and you can still kick it into sport+manual for a bit hoonage if the opportunity presents. I'm not sure I'd go back to a manual for a daily driver.
 
Be careful not to marry your mistress, as the fun will soon go out of the whole experience... :wink:
 
Depends what your daily is going to be used for . . . . .

The 2 litre is a lighter and more chuckable Zed - it's fun, revs freely and has all the looks and comfort of the bigger engined Zeds. Lots about and some well specced late facelift examples about. Unlikely to hold its value and some issues with manifolds (which can be welded) and engine management lights (over sensitive sensors)

The 2.5si is just as capable on the road as the 3.0 - forget about the 0-60 times, the driver makes the difference on the road and we have some excellent drivers on the forum - it's fun getting the very best out of the 150bhp :driving: :thumbsup:

I kept my 3.0si for 4 months when I got my M and I would definitely consider the 3.0si as a daily. Used gently it has lowdown torque which helps. I've also heard that the auto engine combination is a good match. Compared to the M it's a silky smooth relaxing drive. Big boot and roof down motoring all year - excellent!

The M is a special Zed isn't it :D :thumbsup: That's why I kept mine . . . .
 
When I bought my Z4 2 years ago I couldnt find a 3.0ltr locally so settled on a 2007 2.5si sport.15000miles later and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it on our country roads.
Sure a 3.0ltr is faster in a straight line but how many of you do track days or are able to use that bit extra on the road?
Maybe that little 3.0 badge on the side gives you more street cred but I reckon the colour,wheels and interior will impress people more.
 
I'd say do t rule any of the engines out. Main thing is to find a great example that's well serviced and looked after. They all have a great drive for sure. The roads I usually drive are tight country back roads and I have the 2.5i but reckon I'd be just as happy with the 2.0 on those roads, maybe even more so with it being lighter.

I found a clean example in my budget and am very happy with it, especially now it's had a few little mods. The 6 does make a great sound though especially when the box is taken off :driving:
 
It's not hard to use all the performance of a 3.0si, anyone who tells you a lesser engine is just as good is usually someone who has that lesser engine...
 
As someone also in the market for a Z4, I can't honestly see much reasoning in buying a lesser-engined car unless you're in the middle of nowhere or you don't want the performance.

As for the idea that the 4cyl cars are the better handlers, I'd be really sceptical about that. The weight difference between the 3.0 and 2.2 is the equivalent of a tank of petrol - and with the engine sat behind the front wheels, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference.
There's no getting away from the fact that the 2.0 and 2.2 are very slow cars. The average diesel repmobile would comfortably see either off in a drag race - but I suppose it is ultimately down to what excites the individual.
 
It really depends on your driving. I owned a Thorney tuned vx220 NA 2.2 and it out handled the far more powerful turbo versions. A lot of people just want the top end power and that's fine but a more balanced car like the 4 banger Z'S hold their own on the twisty stuff I'm sure.

I used to track it at Croft and it stripped high power Scoobies very easily.

For a daily Z4 though... history, good maintenance and the desired options should be top of the list. If that's a 3.0 then great but there's good options out there for sure

A good friend of mine runs a Clio172 for track and it's funny seeing the more serious eco and scoring Crowd getting chased down by that little beast haha
 
DaveP said:
As someone also in the market for a Z4, I can't honestly see much reasoning in buying a lesser-engined car unless you're in the middle of nowhere or you don't want the performance.

As for the idea that the 4cyl cars are the better handlers, I'd be really sceptical about that. The weight difference between the 3.0 and 2.2 is the equivalent of a tank of petrol - and with the engine sat behind the front wheels, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference.
There's no getting away from the fact that the 2.0 and 2.2 are very slow cars. The average diesel repmobile would comfortably see either off in a drag race - but I suppose it is ultimately down to what excites the individual.
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The average derv rep car would chase down any Z apart from the M these days.

I had a 4 series D on loan for a week and it was very quick indeed, on the motorway there's no way any Z would keep up with it. Mile muncher
 
Hi All,

I have a 2004 Z4 3.0 and I love driving it every day. I use it for work and because of shifts she gets driven at times of day all the rubbish is not on the road. I have had the car for over two years and still every day it puts a smile on my face. Although twelve years old it performs well, handles well (slight tweaking - Poly bushed front end + Ultra racing strut) and looks amazing. I have driven all sorts of cars yet my Zed is way ahead. For an old girl she can still embarrass fellow German Marques especially on roundabouts and bends.

As a daily driver the car has been faultless.

3.0L it has to be...

Regards

Cavey
 
RLFILMSCO said:
It really depends on your driving. I owned a Thorney tuned vx220 NA 2.2 and it out handled the far more powerful turbo versions. A lot of people just want the top end power and that's fine but a more balanced car like the 4 banger Z'S hold their own on the twisty stuff I'm sure.
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With respect, the analogy is not really a good one. The VX220 is a very hardcore car, so it's hardly surprising that the 'cooking' version was still quick and competitive on track. If a VX220T had enjoyed the benefit of the chassis work that you'd had done, I doubt you (or many others) would have seen it for dust on the track.

We're comparing two like-for-like chassis (a tank of petrol weight difference) in much heavier, softer road cars here. I just can't see how anyone is going to notice the small difference (~5%) to be able to categorically say it's "more balanced".
 
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