Would you change your vote ?
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I voted to stay part of the UK in 2014 and part of EU in 2016.
Once Brexit goes through the I may rethink that first vote if it means Scotland can gain entry alone
Once Brexit goes through the I may rethink that first vote if it means Scotland can gain entry alone
Are any of the remainers planning on moving to another EU state country next year?
We had a referendum in the 70's which said STAY - Now a referendum in 2000's which said GO
Let's go Best of Three!
I would remain as I did the last two times. The Eu isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination but better than the alternative and at least the UK can have some influence. I think our MEP's are supposed to do that.
Let's go Best of Three!
I would remain as I did the last two times. The Eu isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination but better than the alternative and at least the UK can have some influence. I think our MEP's are supposed to do that.
I don't see another referendum as undemocratic if the first vote was taken without a true knowledge of what would be the real consequences of leaving the EU - no mention was made of the NI border from either side two years ago as just one example - we have the NHS in crisis largely because of the reduction of nurses and doctors who cannot see a future in the UK - the same thing is happening to the farming and hospitality services . If democracy dictates that an ill informed decision is sacrosanct then this can't be right and the country remains as divided as ever - another referendum at least will have an informed foundation and hopefully help to unify the people in to accepting whatever the outcome.
Feels like the remain argument is like telling someone in an abusive relationship that they should stay in it because they would be financially better off. Sometimes it's worth a bit of hardship to get away from a poisonous relationship. Just my opinion, of course.
Smartbear said:
Indeed but I believe the vote you refer to (1975) was massively in favour at 67.3% - almost every area of the country voted to remain. By coincidence 2/3rds is often used as an appropriate bar for change of this magnitude :wink: The UK joined the EEC in 1973 and there was no vote. Interestingly the referendum in 2016 was not legally binding and the government could have treated it as advisory if it had so chosen - with hindsight perhaps that would have been wise given the narrowness of the result and the utter shambles that has followed. Unfortunately Cameron committed to implement the result regardless of how close it might be effectively tying his successors hands.
gov said:
That may be true for many of us on here, but for many of the people I saw interviewed just after the result was announced 2 years ago they wouldn't have any more knowledge of what they were voting for now than they did then!
Some Snowflake generational said she voted remain as she didn't want to have to get a visa to go to France!
When did we ever need that? :? I voted for Brexit and still would - but the current deal is hopeless! I suppose that's what you get when the PM in charge of negotiating it wanted to remain anyway and doesn't have a proper majority - or any balls!
Shame Maggie T never called a referendum - she'd have kicked the Euro a*ses. :lol:
I wonder if the remain voters will finally shut up if there is another vote and it goes the same way (or will they want best of 5?).
They seem confident that people will change their minds, but I'm not seeing that. Most people I speak to will not change their vote.
As I see it there are a few people who will change their vote, but then there is another camp who will vote to respect the result of the first vote (seeing quite a lot of that). Question is, which camp is the biggest.
They seem confident that people will change their minds, but I'm not seeing that. Most people I speak to will not change their vote.
As I see it there are a few people who will change their vote, but then there is another camp who will vote to respect the result of the first vote (seeing quite a lot of that). Question is, which camp is the biggest.
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Even if everyone who voted, votes the same way, the extra couple of million people who are now eligible to vote might swing it the other way.
Maybe only the people who voted in the first referendum should get the opportunity to vote again / change their vote?
Maybe only the people who voted in the first referendum should get the opportunity to vote again / change their vote?
sp3ctre said:
I would have to agree with you except I don't think it is a poisonous or abusive relationship - far from it. Its been massively beneficial to our country and has enabled us to move from being the sick man of Europe to amongst the strongest. I agree that the Eton boys and some sections of the press have for their own reasons chosen to portray the EU as our bitter enemy and those who knew that was wrong did not raise their voices early enough. Fair enough Britain never bought in to the political project but the EU was prepared to allow us to take a different route while still in the union - eg not being a member of the Euro, our rebate or the Schengen travel area. We had the best of both worlds and a far better deal than we have been offered now - in my opinion.
Mr Tidy said:
I think both sides of this argument were misled. For your voter who thought visas were a reason to vote remain I raise you the millions who believed the battle bus claim that we would have a £350M /week brexit dividend, the millions who were told immigrants were a drain on our economy or the millions who believed countries were lining up to do trade deals with us. I prefer not to blame people for the way they voted but to point the finger at those who misled us, sometimes deliberately. People had a right to know what they were voting for.
