World Trade Centre Dustification

Tries hard but smacks of amateur nonsense.

So a huge group of deranged mass murderers from so many different walks of life and industries, technical, political, monetary backgrounds all come together to plot and carry out this atrocity but don’t then have the sense to cover basic potential clues that will be investigated??

They’ll have to try a damn site harder than that crap to make any sense.
 
Nictrix said:
Ducklakeview said:
I for one don't believe the "official version" of events.

For one, those buildings were apparently designed to withstand an impact from a plane much larger than those allegedly flown into them.

Secondly, they way in which they came down was WAY too much like a "controlled" demolition.

Just two of my own personal thoughts on the matter..

Mike

They were apparently built to withstand multiple impacts from a plane. This was the spec after the empire state building was hit by a plane.
And as you say about controlled demolition, thats exactly what experts in that field say when shown footage of the towers coming down that it was a controlled demolition.
Do people think it was luck that they fell into their own footprint?

I'm the biggest believer that as this was the first time it happened no one really knew the potential outcome of a plane full of fuel flying into a building , but after visiting the site after watching the whole event live on tv and torturing myself every time it crops up again on tv , Im at a loss how it collapsed in such a controlled way , the site is relatively tiny and as for basically flying past the Statue of Liberty and sticking a finger in the air to it just before killing thousands ?
That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?
 
Paulwirral said:
That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?

That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.


john-e89 said:
but don’t then have the sense to cover basic potential clues that will be investigated??

Well, yeah. The US government have changed their story time and time again to cover untied ends. Plus the well documented case of removing as much evidence (Steel etc) before any investigation taking place. All but a convenient terrorist passport that survived the burning jet fuel and pulverised steel and concrete.
 
thanatu55 said:
Paulwirral said:
That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?

That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.

Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.
 
john-e89 said:
thanatu55 said:
Paulwirral said:
That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?

That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.

Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.

Fantasy doesn't explain the pentagon, where a plane went through a hole somewhat smaller than it can actually fit through..

Mike
 
Ducklakeview said:
john-e89 said:
thanatu55 said:
That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.

Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.

Fantasy doesn't explain the pentagon, where a plane went through a hole somewhat smaller than it can actually fit through..

Mike

No it doesn’t, that is a strange one certainly.
 
Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...
 
The demolition theory of the towers is just ridiculous imo. Notwithstanding the people that would have to carry it out, you’d also need 4 pilots happy to commit mass murder and his/her own suicide, and also to fly to the exact spot where these supposed explosions were set, plus there were no huge explosions on all sides of the towers which would have been seen on a demolition job. The towers dropped from the top down so how could explosions be placed in the basements? Doesn’t stack up, plus the report I posted on page 5 here explains the clips that would have failed in the fire.
 
thanatu55 said:
Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...

Suited him better to deny involment and let the west argue like is happening and perhaps bring ex presidents and soooooo many others down and cause as much chaos as possible.

But as you say we all have our beliefs. Each to their own obviously. :cheers: :thumbsup:
 
john-e89 said:
thanatu55 said:
Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...

Suited him better to deny involment and let the west argue like is happening and perhaps bring ex presidents and soooooo many others down and cause as much chaos as possible.

But as you say we all have our beliefs. Each to their own obviously. :cheers: :thumbsup:

:cheers: :lol:
 
One quick last point then I’m done......yes yes I know.....about bloody time.... :oops:

To my knowledge, and tell me if I’m wrong here, not ONE person has come forward to say that they were offered a very very large sum of money to commit mass murder, refused it and reported the people offering the money to the authorities. That would mean that EVERY SINGLE person involved would have said yes and kept quiet pocketing large sums of money to mass murder......really....?? Plus in the aftermath would banks not be suspicious of lots of people depositing this blood money that previously had regular incomes? If I found a big bag of money in a ditch, say a million quid, I couldn’t just dump it in the bank, I’d be deafened by the alarm bells ringing..... :lol:
 
On a slightly different story, the Las Vegas shootings had the official story changed multiple times as well to suit statements from witnesses that conflicted with the original.
 
I suspect that even if the actual truth , what ever it may be , was made public about anything to do with what happened on September 11th , no reasonable human being would be able to make sense of it , I certainly couldn't .
 
Marlon
Put options -- financial instruments which allow investors to profit from the decline in value of stocks -- were purchased on the stocks of American Airlines and United Airlines in great volume in the week before the attack.

Two of the corporations most damaged by the attack were American Airlines (AMR), the operator of Flight 11 and Flight 77, and United Airlines (UAL).

The Bloomberg News reported that put options on the airlines just days before the attack surged to the phenomenal high of 285 times their average. The spikes in put options occurred on days that were uneventful for the airlines and their stock prices.

When the market reopened after the attack, United Airlines stock fell 42 percent from $30.82 to $17.50 per share, and American Airlines stock fell 39 percent, from $29.70 to $18.00 per share.

And then there are the financial services corporations:

Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. and Merrill Lynch & Co. were both headquartered in lower Manhattan at the time of the attack. Morgan Stanley occupied 22 floors of the North Tower and Merrill Lynch had headquarters near the Twin Towers. Morgan Stanley, which saw an average of 27 put options on its stock bought per day before September 6, saw 2,157 put options bought in the three trading days before the attack.

Merrill Lynch, which saw an average of 252 put options on its stock bought per day before September 5, saw 12,215 put options bought in the four trading days before the attack. Morgan Stanley's stock dropped 13% and Merrill Lynch's stock dropped 11.5% when the market reopened.

Certainly there is evidence of prior knowledge. Bin Laden had it and it was him that invested millions on the stock market to continue funding terrorism. That's how he was a multi billionaire.

In a past life I had the pleasure of attending a lecture by a Jackie Zappacosta (FBI) given to very close circle of invitees re terrorist funding and money laundering. 911 cost $440,000 from start to finish and made Bin Laden and his associates 100 times that.
 
thanatu55 said:
Did Hitler escape?

Of course he did , according to a certain Sunday sport news paper many years ago he flew to the moon on a b52 bomber , it was on the front page so it's obviously true
 
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