Wood burning stoves

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Z4 Beemer

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 Glasgow
Just wondered, does anyone on here have a wood burning stove?

I'm getting one installed on Friday... this one:

http://www.woodburnerwarehouse.co.uk/multi_fuel_stoves/morso_stoves/morso_o4_multifuel_stove.phtml

Got the chimney tested and lined last week so ready for the stove to be hooked up.

A colleague at work has one and they put out huge amounts of heat and are quite energy efficient. I'm turning one of my spare rooms into a TV lounge and the stove is being installed there. Pics will follow when operational. :fuelfire: :D
 
I had a Villager one in my old house and it was brilliant.

Just dont burn any old crap in it though or you'll line the chimney with deposits that will be hard to get rid of or cause chimney fires.

Wood should be left to season for at least a year. ideally 2.

Love the smell of coal which is surprisingly cheap. used to burn a mix.

Enjoy. Ohh and cleaning the glass is a right PITA
 
Thanks Greeno!

Mine is a multifuel, so I can burn peat and coal also. It has an airwash system that is meant to keep the glass door clear, but I guess I'll see how it goes. Never had one before, but really looking forward to it. :)
 
Coal needs to be burnt on a grate with air coming up under the coals, wood needs to be burnt on a layer of ash with the air going over the wood, if that makes sense. You'll need to decide what you are burning and then set the stove up accordingly. If you choose wood, get some sand and lay an inch of it in the base of the stove, it'll stop you burning out the base of the stove. Coal will give a better more consistent heat but coal ash is toxic so can't be put on the garden where you are likely to grow edible food. As previously mentioned wood needs to be seasoned before burning or you'll tar up the flue and risk a fire. Have chimney cleaned once a year ideally.
As for cleaning the glass, and even with airwash you will need to do it, wet some newspaper, dip it in the ash and use it to clean the glass.
There is no heat quite like a wood burner, we don't have central heating and rely mainly on a woodburner, i get through around 6 ton of timber each winter, a lot of chainsaw and axe work but as the old saying goes, the wood warms you twice.
Be prepared is the motto or you'll end up doing this http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22994 :wink:

PS depending on how you are setting your room up, don't have a flat screen on a chimney above a stove, apparently it will get too hot for the TV. Not that i have a flat screen so only speaking from hearsay.
Good luck and enjoy, there's nothing quite like a brisk drive on a cold day then coming home to a roaring fire, all you need next is a dog in front of it and a musket over the fireplace :)
 
Looks lovely Z4 Beemer. Sure it will look grand once it's installed. Are you lifting it yourself :o

Some interesting info from the others too :)
 
roofless said:
As for cleaning the glass, and even with airwash you will need to do it, wet some newspaper, dip it in the ash and use it to clean the glass.
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Yes, my arewash never really worked. wet newspaper and ash is OK if you keep on top of it.

Other wise get yourself a paint scraper for glass - plastic handle thing with a stanley blade in the end and some glass cleaner - this was my preferred method.
 
is this multifuel?

i had 1 in my last house, although they are very good i would not want another, they are messy and if its just wood burning, you spend too much time chopping up the wood
 
we have 4 in our house, great for warming your socks up on :)

just make sure you have enough seasoned wood ready, we just chopped down a 40m oak so i have spent the last week with the chainsaw and then the axe splitting logs. good workout!
 
A few friends have these and I love them. A couple have of them have the airwash system which seems to work quite well. Interestingly they all seemed to make the same mistake when it arrived... buying bags of logs from B&Q or every worse, the garage! If you have room for storage, £100 will get you a small mountain of logs.

I want one.
 
Z4Beemer,

I have just installed the same stove myself, the Morso 4. Great little stove and kicks out loads of heat. We are well chuffed with it and decided to get one as we have loads of wood stored from taking trees down in my garden when we cleared it.

I did the install as well which was a pig but very satisfying once it was all in as it saved me a packet rather than getting the pro's in.

Only thing I would say is make sure you get the 904 liner installed if you are going to be burning coal and wood, costs a little bit more but will last so much longer.

Oh and of course make sure you dont burn unseasoned wood. Worth getting a moisture meter and only burn anything under 20% moisture. We have found the airwash works well if the wood is good, anything higher than this and it will be prone to sooting of the glass.

If burning coal we are using Homefire Ovals which are good and burn well. Dont burn wood and coal at the same time as well as this will just shorten the life of the liner as the coal produces sulphuric acid and the wood provides the moisture so it will start to eat into your liner.

Enjoy!
 
Thanks for all the replies, tips and advice everyone! :thumbsup:

I'm getting it fitted professionally - well known Glasgow company, Gibson & Goold http://www.gibsonandgoold.com/glasgow and they advised me on hearth and chimney work required etc. I initially picked another make, as I wanted something fairly simple and not too fancy, but they suggested the Morso 04. I was also advised to go for a smoke approved model due to local council regulations and being multi-fuel its an added feature.

The stove will actually be "free standing" and not recessed in an actual fireplace, if that makes sense. The 6" solid fuel liner has already been installed.

Really looking forward to it after reading these replies. :D :fuelfire: Pics will follow.
 
Well, my stove is finally fitted and have to say I'm really pleased with it. :D

Started with this - wall opened up and chimney liner installed

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Work underway...

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And finally...

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Nice, mine is being installed next week. I have gone for the "Clearview" range.

What is the distance to that flammable wall on the side? When they did my survey they were very funny with those distances.

I was surprised that the fireplace itself was not that bad a price (about £800 or so), but the flu and installation works out at £2500 which was a little steeper than I expected.

With the oil prices as they are and a virtual unlimited supply of firewood from my woods, at least it should pay itself back within a year.
 
JayD said:
Z4Beemer,

I have just installed the same stove myself, the Morso 4.
Enjoy!
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Well I hope you aren't moving house anytime soon as you've busted Building Regs - woodburner MUST be fitted THESE DAYS by a HEATAS qualified technician and a certificate of conformity provided for BRs.

Having said that, once installed they can't be beaten. If you are mega-houseproud and don't like dust or woodchips then don't have one FFS! LOL

Also get your chimney swept at least every two years (annually if you can afford it) but with three of the buggers (two Hunters and an Esse Ironheart which is fab) we often burn wood straight off the tree sometimes when we run short (ash though it has to be said, so low in moisture) and we go three years sometimes til the chimney stops working properly. :oops:
 
I have ours swept every year, it is actually a condition for the home insurance and I get a "certificate" from the chimney sweep company who does it.

You know what insurance companies can be like if there is any way to get out of a claim, even if it was not related ...
 
pvr said:
Nice, mine is being installed next week. I have gone for the "Clearview" range.

What is the distance to that flammable wall on the side? When they did my survey they were very funny with those distances.

I was surprised that the fireplace itself was not that bad a price (about £800 or so), but the flu and installation works out at £2500 which was a little steeper than I expected.

With the oil prices as they are and a virtual unlimited supply of firewood from my woods, at least it should pay itself back within a year.
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I was about to say, that looks scarily close IMHO - its not somwehere I'd have put a woodburner personally.

There is a link here that gives some info, including the fact that you also need a CO alarm from Oct 2010.

I haven't read the Building Regs lately but I'm sure there is reference there to 1000mm as being the minimum distance for any combustible surface from the stove itself....

That price does sound a lot but they've got you over a barrel with BRs frankly. A DIY install (and despite me preaching here I've done five in the last few years!) would be around £300-500 including the flue liner. We had a Godin Colonial (which is a massive stove) installed in France for £2500 all in just a couple of years ago....and that included a 15' high steel flue internally and a large stainless steel chimney outside......
 
Thanks guys.

The installer quoted a few clearances/measurements that we had to make sure were adhered to, including the fact that the chimney outside needed to be at least 3 metres higher than the exit of the stove (just made it), but everything else is ok. Since I stay in the top flat, and the location of the 8 chimneys are fixed, I was fairly limited in terms of where it could be positioned (unless I put the liner in one of my neighbours chimneys :P ), but I think it looks pretty good in the corner, under the slope of the roof, which is pretty much unusable space anyway.
 
I liked the sales docs, it states that burning wood is more environment friendly than other fuels, reason being that wood left to decay produces the same amount of CO2 as when simply burning it.

Someone had to dig deep to come up with that one :D
 
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