Windscreen Seals

xedbot said:
Well after a lot of frustrating phone calls (at my expense) my insurers have agreed for me to use my local BMW for my replacement windscreen.

Even better news is that it is all covered under my £90 excess. No effect on no-claims bonus. Result!

Booked in this Thursday, lets hope it goes well!

Bill to my insurance company is as follows:

BMW Dick Lovett Swindon
Windscreen: £273.98
Adhesive: £67.14
Seal: £24.60
Rain Sensor: £177.11
Labour: £342.43

TOTAL: £885.26

Also, a really good tip that I wish I found out sooner is to use http://www.saynoto0870.com to find the normal (free!) landline numbers for the department you need at your insurance etc.

Crikey. They know how to charge. :lol:
 
xedbot said:
srhutch said:
Why the rain sensor?

It comes bonded to the glass apparently so they can't be reused.

Yes, and no. The sensor unit is mounted in a bracket on the screen. There are different types but this one sounds like one which needs needs a gel (between glass and sensor). There are 'regeneration' packs available (to replace the old gel) and there are also pre-formed silicon pads as well as acrylic ones. The sensor unit itself has three retainers which in about as many seconds you can unclip them, remove the 'face' or cover, and replace with a new one which comes with a new coating of gel on it. It's obviously much cheaper than a new sensor unit.

IMHO, there is no categorically no need for a new sensor, unless there is damage.

If BMW can explain why a new unit is needed, I'd be very interested. And while they're at it, I'd also like to know how I've been (successfully) getting away with 'regenerating' existing sensor gel coatings for all these years.
 
ben g said:
The seal is actually just trim. It's purely cosmetic. That said, being a cosmetic part, you don't expect it to crack and split.

After 10 years on the car, the rubber starts to degrade. They sell a touch-up thing for it, but i cant remember what its called. Maybe gummi pflege? Ive never used it, but people have recommended it on the forum.
 
Ok
so the windscreen man arrived yesterday and agreed that the aftermarket seal was too small and agreed with me that the other one he had bought with him would be no different.
The call was cancelled and I got a phone call later on yesterday to say a Pukka BMW seal had been ordered from Sytner and would be fitted when delivered. I priced one up at £24.60p with Sytner at Nottingham.
The wind screen will have to come out to get the new one in. This is a cosmetic seal, if you look closely you can see a small hole at the top of the seal to let the air in so the water can drain out of the bottom.
Judging by how many people have had the same problem maybe the Windscreen companies will start to fit the proper seal to save all this time and effort.
Thanks for all the replies, this should now get sorted.
 
SUUNTOBOB said:
Ok

Judging by how many people have had the same problem maybe the Windscreen companies will start to fit the proper seal to save all this time and effort.

Most people want the cheapest insurance.

All insurance companies want to provide the best deal. In order to compete, they'll look to 'approve' one company - one which will provide them with the cheapest deal.

The big windscreen companies want ^^ those ^^ contracts. In order to compete, they will use cheaper parts (or even leave some out!) so they'll look for a cheaper manufacturer and then tell the public that the parts are 'OEM standard'.

Meanwhile, the car owner just wants a cheap insurance deal.

The downside does not become apparent until there is a claim scenario. Until then, everyone gets what they want.
 
Glassman said:
SUUNTOBOB said:
Ok

Judging by how many people have had the same problem maybe the Windscreen companies will start to fit the proper seal to save all this time and effort.

Most people want the cheapest insurance.

All insurance companies want to provide the best deal. In order to compete, they'll look to 'approve' one company - one which will provide them with the cheapest deal.

The big windscreen companies want ^^ those ^^ contracts. In order to compete, they will use cheaper parts (or even leave some out!) so they'll look for a cheaper manufacturer and then tell the public that the parts are 'OEM standard'.

Meanwhile, the car owner just wants a cheap insurance deal.

The downside does not become apparent until there is a claim scenario. Until then, everyone gets what they want.

Unfortunately you are right, for one moment there I had an attack of common sense.
 
Just booked mine in with autoglass for next Sunday.

We'll see what they turn up with r.e trim. The one on there currently is only 18 months old, so may just get them to re-use it as it's a proper bmw one.

I didn't speak to the call centre guy about the trim as he's probably have no idea about it, but will make sure the fitter knows of my previous issue regarding the pattern part one I had before.
 
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