Will the Z4 E85 become a classic?
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Court1987 said:
Yes to the first question. No to the second (with caveats)
A well timed MC purchase could see you with a healthy upside at some point. Everything else is likely to cost you much more to run that it’s ever going to appreciate. Most 2.0s will destined for the scrap heap/ parts cars when their engines go pop. :fuelfire:
I hear & see so many people who tell me their car will be a classic one day and are keeping it, yet on inspection, they're not even up-together now, let alone in 5 -10 years time !
If you want to see a return from a Zed in 5-10 years time, I seriously think you need to have, or get hold of one of the less produced models (M Roadster, M Coupe or Alpina), rather than the more mass produced standard models. And, the lower the mileage the better. Plus it needs to be tip-top too.
You'll also need to garage or dry store it and tread the fine line of keeping the miles down, whilst keeping everything on the car ticking over, as sitting doesn't do a car any good in the long run. Every moving part needs to keep moving occasionally, otherwise it just seizes or squeaks !
...Just my opinon !
If you want to see a return from a Zed in 5-10 years time, I seriously think you need to have, or get hold of one of the less produced models (M Roadster, M Coupe or Alpina), rather than the more mass produced standard models. And, the lower the mileage the better. Plus it needs to be tip-top too.
You'll also need to garage or dry store it and tread the fine line of keeping the miles down, whilst keeping everything on the car ticking over, as sitting doesn't do a car any good in the long run. Every moving part needs to keep moving occasionally, otherwise it just seizes or squeaks !
...Just my opinon !
I don’t think they’ll be classed as “Classic” by the normal definition as we know it. But, when governments really do crack down on combustion engines and crank up the battery powered cars, the likes of the 3.0si manuals will become desirable additions to peoples garages and club meets.
Also my opinion.Number5 said:
low mileage MR, MC and Alpina will eventually become classic as they are rare but whats the point of having a car like that if you can't drive it when you want to. On the other hand buy one of the more ordinary ones and enjoy without the worry of losing money.
I voted "No" because I can't see them becoming "classics" in the foreseeable future, although Ms and Alpinas seem to be heading that way and 3.0Sis are getting close even if only based on rarity.
I'm sure eventually other models will head that way led by 3.0is and 2.5Sis but probably not for quite a while.
None of them makes sense as an investment though. I'd suggest buying the best you can find in your budget and just enjoying it!
I'm sure eventually other models will head that way led by 3.0is and 2.5Sis but probably not for quite a while.
None of them makes sense as an investment though. I'd suggest buying the best you can find in your budget and just enjoying it!
As said, apart from M's and Alpinas there's not much reason for a mass produced (if most enjoyable and stylish) BMW to become a classic. However, when I was buying my Z4 I noticed that older Z3s are more expensive for any given engine size. Maybe being retro E30/E36 is already a thing for nostalgia!
DMike
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Could sound boring, but I think it will some day, by some, be considered a classic, with some added value being a manual or M. And some like vanilla, too. If I were to buy a classic car (e.g. an old Corvette), I’d want one that has not been modified to death and which preserves the essence of the original design, engine specs being secondary.
Well, we all love old BMWs right? You would probably buy any E30 or E36 or E28, etc... Engine size won't matter and the only thing that will is the condition, at least that is my view on this topic. Of course we all love inline 6 engines but if someone offered me a mint 318is, I would run to it. Generally speaking when a BMW gets old, everyone wants it.
Also, the prices in the rest of the Europe are going up. There is rarely a cheap E85/E86 now unless it has some really high mileage (or kms).
Good ones are from 8-9k euros and up. 8) If you get lucky you can get it for about 6-7k euros.
So yes, with everything being said I think it will be a classic. M models are something different of course...
Also, the prices in the rest of the Europe are going up. There is rarely a cheap E85/E86 now unless it has some really high mileage (or kms).
Good ones are from 8-9k euros and up. 8) If you get lucky you can get it for about 6-7k euros.
So yes, with everything being said I think it will be a classic. M models are something different of course...
