Why can't the rest of the world do this ?
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The latest video showing the death of the Jordanian Pilot plumbs new depths of barbarism...get in there and sort it you lilly livered soft Socialist cretins :x
If only.
If it was that simple it would have been done.
You have to have serious 'issues' if you find cruel murder makes you think you have found a way to address your problems.
Kill them all is a rubbish solution. In my opinion. I would bet education, opportunity to build a family and a living, fair treatment by the local government rather than having to suffer tribally inspired injustice and an end to Sunni(?) prejudice coordinated by the likes of Nouri al Malaki are more likely to move things forward.
But what do I know, I am a currently unwaged dosser.
If it was that simple it would have been done.
You have to have serious 'issues' if you find cruel murder makes you think you have found a way to address your problems.
Kill them all is a rubbish solution. In my opinion. I would bet education, opportunity to build a family and a living, fair treatment by the local government rather than having to suffer tribally inspired injustice and an end to Sunni(?) prejudice coordinated by the likes of Nouri al Malaki are more likely to move things forward.
But what do I know, I am a currently unwaged dosser.
And there in lies the problem mate, too many people think education, opportunities, family life, fair treatment is the solution...they don't want it.
But as you say, you are entitled to your opinion.
But as you say, you are entitled to your opinion.
And you may be right too. But I like to think that people are basically decent
Haven't seen much in recent weeks to support your claim, but I'm sure the likes of Shami Chakrabarti, Anjem Choudray, et al will probably agree with you.
If you educate them, all you achieve is that they learn how to fly a plane into destruction or how to make a bomb themselves.
Not sure anymore on how to stop this as they are in Europe as well looking at the events in France and Belgium of recent times, and there seem way too many in the UK as well that have been allowed to recruit.
I can certainly see why dictators are a necessity in the countries where there is a large presence of those sort of people to keep them under control.
Not sure anymore on how to stop this as they are in Europe as well looking at the events in France and Belgium of recent times, and there seem way too many in the UK as well that have been allowed to recruit.
I can certainly see why dictators are a necessity in the countries where there is a large presence of those sort of people to keep them under control.
mwadZ4 said:
According to news tonight the connected prisoners due to stand trial were transported earlier today to the state prison that carries out the death penalty . possibly the first one as early as tomorrow ?
I accept it isn't the way forward but it should send out a more definite statement than our own government has
mr wilks said:
Yes the one they wanted swapped is first tomorrow morning, followed by several others. Reading the news, not only was the guy murdered in January and have been spinning it out, it's also forbidden in Islam but we already know what they consider 'Islam' is far from it. The Jordanians will ensure they know they won't take this and even Obama is backing them. This will be a turning point and how things go from here is anyone's guess.
where does it end though.
We're having suicide bombers, lunatics with guns and knives as it is for ''our government'' killing ''their brothers'' on THEIR soil.. When we're doing it on home turf, well, it just sounds like inviting the devil in for a cuppa..
not saying I disagree with it for what they've done or planned to do - just saying I don't think it will alleviate or acheive anything positive :/
We're having suicide bombers, lunatics with guns and knives as it is for ''our government'' killing ''their brothers'' on THEIR soil.. When we're doing it on home turf, well, it just sounds like inviting the devil in for a cuppa..
not saying I disagree with it for what they've done or planned to do - just saying I don't think it will alleviate or acheive anything positive :/
My first reaction was good on Jordan. But on reflection, I think it is up to the civilised world to show a civilised reaction and refrain from, now matter how tempting, getting involved in tit-for-tat killings like this. Let's be honest, if that woman was nuts enough to blow herself to smithereens for a distorted cause then she wouldn't be that bothered to be "martyred" by the enemy. I think confining her in prison for the rest of her days would much greater humiliation and punishment and it has the added benefit of showing we are above the sort of sickening violence that we have seen from ISIl/ISIS or whatever they are calling themselves.
Exactly.
But I won't be condemning them for responding in kind. The provocation is not one easily ignored.
But I won't be condemning them for responding in kind. The provocation is not one easily ignored.
OG - true, but think of how Israel operates. Any enemy of them knows that they will be terminated, and their families with them.
That certainly stopped the plane hijacking etc. It does work as a repellent to some extend.
To show a civilised face to terrorists basically tells them that they can get away with anything.
That certainly stopped the plane hijacking etc. It does work as a repellent to some extend.
To show a civilised face to terrorists basically tells them that they can get away with anything.
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as ive said before ISIS are laughing at us ,they are winning ,and as i said before who can blame them , they know that after the disaster that was the last iraq war , the west is too frightened to go back in ,the neighbouring states are too weak and disorganised to fight back ,the UAE has bottled it as have others the only local country with any balls is jordan , you could argue that ISIS have observed the way the then british govt submitted to and caved in to sinnfein/ IRA , and with letters sent to the Murderers saying they will not be pursued shows terriorism won , , If i were ISIS i would stick it out showing that they will bring the horror of the inquisition back from the middle ages to the present and this is what will happen to you , , we are at a cross roads one way is to fight and you MUST win , the other is to roll over which is probably what our weak useless frightened PC leaders will do , I have never heard so much painfully ernest verbal bullshit from them as we have had over the Charlie Ebdoh affair,and the weekly beheadings the scriptwriters for the useless political leaders must be running out of new ways of proclaiming their disgust , part of me thinks this has to end soon , but deep down we all know we going to see and hear of things being done in the name of Islam by ISIS will shock us to the core , you have no idea whats coming ,