Which Z4 is the fastest?

[Smartbear]

Yes given that's its supposed to be almost the same power 335 bhp and 500 nm and the 35is is 335 and 500 nm that's kind of fishy..its not that the BUF is any better drag wise! :rofl: :driving:

Better upgrade the turbo's..again.. :fuelfire:

Even more so then, for exactly the same headline figures 6 seconds is an awfully long time :driving:

You getting an aftermarket bonnet scoop and camel hump to house these even hugerer mahoosive turbos? oke: :rofl:

Really pissed that those pesky E85 guys and the 23i 30i E89s can have a nice supercharger….looking forward to seeing Patriot 66 with boost :driving: :driving:

Maybe I can supercharge it and turbo charge it ? :tumbleweed: :rofl:

I remember a guy called Frank over on the Seloc Lotus forum who did this with his 1.8litre Exige, it ended up making 680bhp at the wheels
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/video-the-world-s-fastest-lotus-ar126690.html
Rob

 

[Chippie]

To me it looks like the m40i keeps in the power band more, where the 35is seems to over rev so not keeping within the maximum available torque

It also means you were holding me up on the NC500 oke: :rofl: :rofl:

oooh how dare you! It was my better half keeping the reins on me :rofl: :rofl:

 

[craig3.2]

I’m not having a go at you Craig, nor have I given you any abuse in any form

I accept fully that you have the fastest zed in the world

We agree on that

I accept fully that you are the one of, if not the best, driver on the forum, certainly right up there with professional racing drivers, as you correctly state

So, non of that is in dispute



I’m just interested in how fast your car actually is ( and how good the brakes are ) because, being a simpleton, and not blessed with your driving god status, I’m struggling understand how you managed to get a Zed from 0-176mph-0 in the distance you obviously did

I’ve obviously missed something because at 176mph you would be covering a mile in under 22secs and it would take you nearly half a mile to stop from that speed

That’s what’s confusing me .. I’d just like you to help me understand how you did it

Not once did I say I had the fastest z in the world I just said what I had managed to do in mine
And nothing more Looks like you're just throwing that in there for effect

And I didn't say I am the best driver on the forum, as there are plenty of very good, fast and highly skilled drivers on here.
Again, you just added that bit for the sake of it.
And you say you aren't having a go.
If that were the case, you'd not have felt the need to comment, but you did. And continue to do so.

Oh, and By YOUR OWN CALCULATIONS..... 1 MILE TO get to the speed, and.half a mile to slow down again.
Which I Fully agree with those calculations, Andy. As it's what I have said all along.
So at least we are in agreement, and without all your bitchy sarcasm.

 

[Argyll Andy]

To me it looks like the m40i keeps in the power band more, where the 35is seems to over rev so not keeping within the maximum available torque

It also means you were holding me up on the NC500 oke: :rofl: :rofl:

Whooo how dare you! It was my better half keeping the reins on me :rofl: :rofl:

 

[earthdweller]

I’m not having a go at you Craig, nor have I given you any abuse in any form

I accept fully that you have the fastest zed in the world

We agree on that

I accept fully that you are the one of, if not the best, driver on the forum, certainly right up there with professional racing drivers, as you correctly state

So, non of that is in dispute



I’m just interested in how fast your car actually is ( and how good the brakes are ) because, being a simpleton, and not blessed with your driving god status, I’m struggling understand how you managed to get a Zed from 0-176mph-0 in the distance you obviously did

I’ve obviously missed something because at 176mph you would be covering a mile in under 22secs and it would take you nearly half a mile to stop from that speed

That’s what’s confusing me .. I’d just like you to help me understand how you did it

Not once did I say I had the fastest z in the world I just said what I had managed to do in mine
And nothing more Looks like you're just throwing that in there for effect

And I didn't say I am the best driver on the forum, as there are plenty of very good, fast and highly skilled drivers on here.
Again, you just added that bit for the sake of it.
And you say you aren't having a go.
If that were the case, you'd not have felt the need to comment, but you did. And continue to do so.

Well,

In fairness you have said you have done a calibrated 176mph from standstill and back to standstill on a runway that was at the time you said you did it 0.9 miles in length

You are adamant that your assertion is correct and that is what you did .., fair enough

Others have stated that mathematically that is impossible and have provided evidence that other similar powered cars have failed to achieve the velocity you claim you did over a longer distance, in fact taken almost twice the distance to achieve 155mph

Therefore, if you are correct you have the fastest Zed in the world unless you can provide evidence ( which i cannot find ) of a zed going faster

So, yes you have asserted that .. repeatedly

The fastest I can find claimed ( on the internet ) achieved is 167mph though no distance given to reach that

As for your driving standard .. you’ve stated how good you are on this thread and repeatedly on others claiming you are faster than others and people can’t keep up with you etc

I’m not having a go .. I’m not abusing you … I’m just questioning what you state to be fact, which I feel I’m
quite entitled to do

Because quite simply Craig … I don’t believe you

Simply put

I don’t believe that you, from a standing start, got a standard, albeit derestricted z4m to 176mph and then back to a standstill on an old, roughly surfaced runway which is less than a mile long

Fair enough

 

[craig3.2]

Andy,1.5 miles was the length of the airstrip I used,and it was enough!

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Here is some Google pictures from September 2011 that shows the runway which was only 1.2 miles long in its heyday, is bisected by the said roundabout. So there was (in September 2011 a few months before the 176 mph record breaking attempt) only 1,500 meters of runway for accelerate-stop.. :tumbleweed: :thumbsdown:
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Yet again Peter.
I said the Runway I used was around 1.5 miles long, or Mike's as I incorrectly put, that you kindly pointed out as well, (Thanks for that ) , and initially I had said it was East Fortune, then realised it possibly wasn't, as my memory isn't that great on where's and when's, unlike yourself, obviously, you are far more intelligent and with a better memory than us ordinary folk.

But before I even had edited that post, I was getting grief about it.
FYI, I often forget people's names, but remember their faces, doesn't mean I don't know them, because I have no idea of their names, lol.

Same with this, as soon as someone questioned me, it made me second guess if it was there or not, so to try and stop the possible grief for possibly being wrong, I edited it, to say an old Airstrip.
But by then i was already getting grief on an innocent post.

For what it's worth, I have probably driven on over 20 different tracks in my teens and twenties, and a few more in my 30s,and also had the enjoyment of driving on around 8 or 9 different old Airstrips!/ disused Runways and quite frankly, I don't remember the exact where's and when's of every one.
Doesn't charge the fact I have done that speed, once, in my z4m, on an old airstrip that was circa 1.5 miles long.

I also did several events at East fortune, years ago, and was under the impression, from my memory, that it was 1.5 Mile's long.
That may or may not be the case, but that's exactly what I remember being told by guys doing events there, not from Google.

As said, don't care if you, or anyone else believes me or not, I know I still did it at an old runway.

Likewise with the Murcielago, I paid a lot of money at the time to try and hit 200mph,in that car, and remember distinctly, as I fell short, and was gutted.
Again, not bothered if you believe me or not
I still have done it, and I know I have, end of.

 

[craig3.2]

Well,

In fairness you have said you have done a calibrated 176mph from standstill and back to standstill on a runway that was at the time you said you did it 0.9 miles in length
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Again, not true!!
If you or anyone else actually reads what I did say, and not what you or other folk, say I said..... :headbang:

I did not once say that I had used a Calibrated device
I said that I had used a GPS based Satnav, which was in fact an old. Mobile, car to car, type transferable, Michelin Satnav, which cost around 80 quid.... Hardly Calibrated equipment, lol
And I have repeatedly said that I did it on an old Airstrip runway that was around 1.5 miles long, not exact measurements, but an approximatjkn
And not the 0.9 miles you now are saying I said. :roll:







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[Scubaregs]

It was so poorly calibrated, it appears to have forgotten where it was during the run.

 

[craig3.2]

It was so poorly calibrated, it appears to have forgotten where it was during the run.

Nah, that would be my bad memory, Craig, lol
As said, it was far from a Calibrated device

 

[craig3.2]

I’m not having a go at you Craig,

THAT'S DEBATEABLE.



We agree on that

So,


I’m just interested in how fast your car actually is

I’ve obviously missed something because at 176mph you would be covering a mile in under 22secs and it would take you nearly half a mile to stop from that speed

AS SAID, TOTALLY AGREE, AND EXACTLY WHAT I SAID WAS THE APROX LENGTH OF OLD RUNWAY I USED.

Well,




Others have stated that mathematically that is impossible and have provided evidence that other similar powered cars have failed to achieve the velocity you claim you did over a longer distance, in fact taken almost twice the distance to achieve 155mph
IT IS IN FACT, AND BY YOUR OWN, AND OTHERS CALCULATIONS, 1.5 IS ENOUGH, AND THAT'S WHAT I REPEATEDLY SAID FROM THE GET GO, AS TO HOW LONG THE OLD AIRSTRIP I WAS ON.

Therefore, if you are correct you have the fastest Zed in the world unless you can provide evidence ( which i cannot find ) of a zed going faster

So, yes you have asserted that .. repeatedly

The fastest I can find claimed ( on the internet ) achieved is 167mph though no distance given to reach that

As for your driving standard .. you’ve stated how good you are on this thread and repeatedly on others claiming you are faster than others and people can’t keep up with you etc

And I had a wee joke with Argyll Andy about that, on another thread.
But was only a wee wind up for Andy, in the jokey vein he himself, and others, often post.

And Also, just my own experience, and again, as others on here who have come to many of my runs, or ones I have been on, Some people haven't been able to keep up with me, and have said as much, some have kept up no bother at all.
While there's also folk I struggle to keep up with at times, like John or Tony(m5) , who are also very capable, high speed drivers who I respect their skill greatly behind a wheel
Tony has kept right on the tail of others with far faster cars, when he was in a diesel estate old 3 series, or an Alfa diesel, lol
Not many of us ordinary folk can do that.
So hats off to folk like them.

I’m not having a go .. I’m not abusing you … I’m just questioning what you state to be fact, which I feel I’m
quite entitled to do

Because quite simply Craig … I don’t believe you

Simply put

I don’t believe that you, from a standing start, got a standard, albeit derestricted z4m to 176mph and then back to a standstill on an old, roughly surfaced runway which is less than a mile long

AGAIN, Who said it was less than 1 mile... It was around 1.5 miles :headbang:
And from memory, it was fairly smooth, not billiard smooth, but good enough for high speed runs.
It was also used by bikes at the time, the one I went on that run in my z.

And, quite frankly, I DON'T CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT, or anyone else.
I won't lose any sleep over it, that's for sure...
Oh no, Andy and Peter don't believe me, Help.....
The sky's falling in :rofl:

 

[Beedub]

this one absolutely RIPS..... This 400hp seems VERY healthy on those new turbo motors. I believe he hits 180mph.

https://youtu.be/J61I_4XHfKc

 

[earthdweller]

Well,




Others have stated that mathematically that is impossible and have provided evidence that other similar powered cars have failed to achieve the velocity you claim you did over a longer distance, in fact taken almost twice the distance to achieve 155mph
IT IS IN FACT, AND BY YOUR OWN, AND OTHERS CALCULATIONS, 1.5 IS ENOUGH, AND THAT'S WHAT I REPEATEDLY SAID FROM THE GET GO, AS TO HOW LONG THE OLD AIRSTRIP I WAS ON.

Therefore, if you are correct you have the fastest Zed in the world unless you can provide evidence ( which i cannot find ) of a zed going faster

So, yes you have asserted that .. repeatedly

The fastest I can find claimed ( on the internet ) achieved is 167mph though no distance given to reach that

As for your driving standard .. you’ve stated how good you are on this thread and repeatedly on others claiming you are faster than others and people can’t keep up with you etc

And I had a wee joke with Argyll Andy about that, on another thread.
But was only a wee wind up for Andy, in the jokey vein he himself, and others, often post.

And Also, just my own experience, and again, as others on here who have come to many of my runs, or ones I have been on, Some people haven't been able to keep up with me, and have said as much, some have kept up no bother at all.
While there's also folk I struggle to keep up with at times, like John or Tony(m5) , who are also very capable, high speed drivers who I respect their skill greatly behind a wheel
Tony has kept right on the tail of others with far faster cars, when he was in a diesel estate old 3 series, or an Alfa diesel, lol
Not many of us ordinary folk can do that.
So hats off to folk like them.

I’m not having a go .. I’m not abusing you … I’m just questioning what you state to be fact, which I feel I’m
quite entitled to do

Because quite simply Craig … I don’t believe you

Simply put

I don’t believe that you, from a standing start, got a standard, albeit derestricted z4m to 176mph and then back to a standstill on an old, roughly surfaced runway which is less than a mile long

AGAIN, Who said it was less than 1 mile... It was around 1.5 miles :headbang:
And from memory, it was fairly smooth, not billiard smooth, but good enough for high speed runs.
It was also used by bikes at the time, the one I went on that run in my z.

And, quite frankly, I DON'T CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT, or anyone else.
I won't lose any sleep over it, that's for sure...
Oh no, Andy and Peter don't believe me, Help.....
The sky's falling in :rofl:

Please try and remember what you said

You said you used a GPS device to verify your speed at 176mph

The US GOV, NASA and space agency site says .. and I quote

“The government provides the GPS signal in space with a global average user range rate error (URRE) of ≤0.006 m/sec over any 3-second interval, with 95% probability.”

“The government distributes UTC as maintained by the U.S. Naval Observatory (USNO) via the GPS signal in space with a time transfer accuracy relative to UTC(USNO) of ≤30 nanoseconds (billionths of a second), 95% of the time. This performance standard assumes the use of a specialized time transfer receiver at a fixed location.”

Now it’s erm, well it was old and …


You’ve been provided with date stamped imagery from before you did your run which shows a public road across the runway

And a measurement of the runway as is now, and was then at 0.93 mile and it was never 1.5 miles long, ever

It’s up there … in the thread ^^^^^^^^^^^

I know it rains a lot in Scotland but it hasn’t shrunk in the wash

 

[earthdweller]

It was so poorly calibrated, it appears to have forgotten where it was during the run.

If i hit v/max in my zed I’m pretty sure I’d remember where it was

Well, in fact he was sure, until it was pointed out repeatedly the runway isn’t long enough at that location

Now .. well maybe it wasn’t there

Must have been at Brize Norton, that runway is almost three miles long

:rofl:

 

[B21]

Very true Andy....just not the bloated g29s, going by another thread topic,lol oke: :rofl:

Craig, all I can say to that is on the runs so far I’ve left some Zeds behind but not been left behind once :wink:

I’ve also been the only bloated G29 there too :rofl:

Yeah,but you haven't been on any runs with me or a few others off here yet,Andy.
You should come on the Sunday drive on the National meet, but you've already said that's not your thing, despite never being on it,or met myself or several others, lol
Or sign up for some of my runs,and see if you can keep up with me and Tony,to name but two (or a few others). oke:

Andy, having now analysed Craig3.2’s Z4M and seen what a M40i does against a 35is I can now confidently state that you won’t need to move the car out of comfort mode when you join Craig for some of his runs…might need some new brake pads running into the back of his car though :driving: :rofl:

 

[Argyll Andy]

you won’t need to move the car out of comfort mode

Tried getting Carly to code to start in sports mode, says the software version of the app isn’t as up to date as the new software release for the car so can’t do it yet :headbang: that and switching off/remembering the last stop start status

As for keeping up, I’ll stand by the statements I made previously

“all I can say to that is on the runs so far I’ve left some Zeds behind but not been left behind once :wink: “

“Don’t have any concerns about being able to keep up with anyone tbh, with the exception of Byron, Peter and the likes in heavily modded cars, levelish playing field no concern at all, not levelish playing field is apples and oranges

Safety is the name of the game, I’ll drive within mine and the cars limitations, if that means someone is quicker than me I’ll not lose any sleep over it”

 

[ori]

Andy,

The app seems to update every week or 2 so worth trying again in a few weeks I guess.