Which Z4 is for me?

ARC

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Hey guys!

I'm Ash and I'm after a Z4. in after a bit of advice about which spec and engine is best for me.

I'm 21 and come Feb I'd have had my licence for 4 years and 3 years no claims (touch wood) so the engine size affects my insurance a fair deal.

I have a budget of around £8000 max for the car.

Just wondering what other than extra power do you get with the different models? For my first rear wheel drive car and first "sports car", would the 2.0 be nippy enough for me? (My last car was only a Grande Punto Turbo hah)

Also, pleased to meet you all I'm sure I'll be joining you properly soon
 
I would check insurance quotes first for the different engine sizes but if your not worried about mpg then a 3.0 is the only option for your budget.
 
Have you considered other cars before making the jump to rwd?

I only ask as I was a long standing can of hot hatches and owned and enjoyed a string of ever more powerful ones until aged 25 I decide to go to rwd. Even though my previous car was 270bhp, I still actually struggled to get decent insurance prices on my coupe for a while as a lot of Insurers wouldn't touch me a it was my first rwd car...

I'm not trying to put you off getting one in any way, and I'm sure you've considered this all already, but I just reckon you'll get a lot more bang for your buck, and probably a bit more enjoyment from a hatch for another year or two, and then be able to jump into a zed with the engine of your choice as you'll find it a bit cheaper to insure?

If you simply must have a zed however then I recommend you employ man maths to come up with as much money as you can for insurance and see if you can stretch to the 3.0si engine! It may sound a little snobby but coming from the hatches I came from, and having driven the coupe with the 3.0si engine for 11k, I would definitely have been bored with less power! Plus the 3.0si engine is lighter so makes for a more nimble car, and fuel economy from what little I've looked at it is marginally better than the 3.0i engine...

Hope that all makes sense; as I say, no intention whatsoever to patronise as I'm sure you've thought long and hard about the car you want, but it just may be worth holding out a bit longer?
 
Ed Doe said:
Have you considered other cars before making the jump to rwd?

I only ask as I was a long standing can of hot hatches and owned and enjoyed a string of ever more powerful ones until aged 25 I decide to go to rwd. Even though my previous car was 270bhp, I still actually struggled to get decent insurance prices on my coupe for a while as a lot of Insurers wouldn't touch me a it was my first rwd car...

I'm not trying to put you off getting one in any way, and I'm sure you've considered this all already, but I just reckon you'll get a lot more bang for your buck, and probably a bit more enjoyment from a hatch for another year or two, and then be able to jump into a zed with the engine of your choice as you'll find it a bit cheaper to insure?

If you simply must have a zed however then I recommend you employ man maths to come up with as much money as you can for insurance and see if you can stretch to the 3.0si engine! It may sound a little snobby but coming from the hatches I came from, and having driven the coupe with the 3.0si engine for 11k, I would definitely have been bored with less power! Plus the 3.0si engine is lighter so makes for a more nimble car, and fuel economy from what little I've looked at it is marginally better than the 3.0i engine...

Hope that all makes sense; as I say, no intention whatsoever to patronise as I'm sure you've thought long and hard about the car you want, but it just may be worth holding out a bit longer?

Oh yeah I've definitely considered it. I had an NA MX5 for a bit but didn't even end up getting round to insuring it because I didn't like it much!

I've came to the decision of a Z4 because I wanted something definitely convertible, and I'm not a fan of 4 seater saloons etc converted into drop tops so a roaster was the main way to go. And other than an MX5 not much else takes my fancy, and then I thought, come to think of it, every time I've seen a Z4 drive past me I've thought wow that looks great, so I thought why not!


Also, do you think maybe I could start with the 2.0 or 2.2 for example to get me into it and then maybe in a year or twos time upgrade? Right now I'm struggling to find a 3.0 that takes my fancy but there's a couple of 2.0s and similar that look really decent.

I'd love one that's got the M Sport bits and a few other things added on as well so that eats into my budget a little...

Insurance is surprisingly not much different on all the engines, ranges between £900 and £1050, which seems fair considering the state of young drivers insurance these days
 
I would go for the 3.0..

There is little difference in economy or insurance..

You can personalise the car as time goes on, but safe in the knowledge you have the best engine.
 
Z4M-2006 said:
I would go for the 3.0..

There is little difference in economy or insurance..

You can personalise the car as time goes on, but safe in the knowledge you have the best engine.

This. The only caveat being that if you want an Si Sport then you may find 2.5 more affordable.
 
Hey Ash,

I'm also 21 and my second car is the 20i Sdrive, I only passed my test last January, insurance is a little over 1160 for the year, my previous car was a Peugeot 107 haha.
 
Hi ARC,

I've had a 2.0i for a couple of years and a 3.0si for the last year (before that an MX5 for 6 years with many motorcycles over many years).

The 2.0i Sport is a great looking Zed. There are lots about and that's why you've been able to find some that you like. There are less 3.0si about so you may have to compromise in what you want (colour and spec) with the 3.0si. You do have the money to buy either.

Some 2 litres have had issues of cracks in the exhaust manifold and engine warning lights being a nuisance as some sensors are sensitive. Some 3 litre have had issues with oil feed to the cams. (Do a search on the forum if you want to know more). The rest of the things to look out for can be found on the buying guide on this forum.

Running costs are quite similar except fuel consumption which is basically a third worse in the 6 cylinder Zed. Servicing costs are higher for the 6 cylinder as well.

Then we get to the driving experience of each Zed. You have to be quite honest with yourself and ask what kind of a driver you are. Are you an enthusiast who enjoys taking your car out to see how it performs on challenging roads or do you like the look of the Zed and will mostly be cruising and using it to commute? Well the good news is that both Zeds will go around corners very well indeed and can offer an exciting ownership experience.

The 2.0 litre needs you to be on your game though and using the top end of the rev range to get the most out of the performance. It's fun to do this but quite demanding. The 2.0 litre engine can take this use however and mine never missed a beat,despite being used in this manner,it just fired up the next day and was ready for more. I found it a smooth and willing engine with just enough power to have fun on the back roads where I live.

So why did I seek out a 3.0si? Well, the 3.0 litre engine Zed is a different experience in terms of the engine. The 6 cylinder is smoother still and very powerful at middle and high revs. This means you can drive it in a more relaxed manner as there is less need to rev out the engine. The extra power is very useful (and makes it safer in my view) for example when overtaking which can be dispatched very quickly and with more confidence. I wanted to experience a large engine sports car before the price of petrol stopped it being feasible - six cylinder engines are being replaced by 4 cylinder turbo-charged motors with the same performance and better mpg.

So where does that leave you? You will be able to find lots of 2.0i Sports for sale but will have to be more patient if you want to find a 3.0si (265bhp). You could purchase the earlier 3.0i (231bhp) in which case you will find even more choice but do buy a well cared for and well maintained example as they are a capable sports car and need to be in top condition - brakes tyres etc.

Both 2litre and 3 litre Zeds will deliver enjoyment and thrills - the 2.0 litre can be exciting and challenging, the 3.0 litre is a more seriously focussed proposition. But both can be 'normally' driven vehicles that will give you ownership pride. If you want the best return for your money go for a 3.0 litre as they hold their prices better and will sell more easily than the 2.0 litre. If you're not too worried about performance and want a particular colour and spec you're more likely to find it with the 2.0 litre as there are more about and you will have a fun Zed. If you want the ultimate and experience great performance then go for the 3.0si or 3.0i. (The ///M version cost far more and cost far more to run). My advice would be to go straight to the 3 litre but read below -

If you are a little uncertain but want to explore your Zed's capabilities, I suggest you seek out some training. I love learning more and more about the skill of driving and so find training a wonderful experience - there's always more to learn (and I'm 57 with 36 years experience on motorcycles and cars). These are capable cars and if you don't know what you're doing can bite back. But as they say - the throttle goes both ways and you do not have to use all the performance - but you'll find it very difficult to resist!

Finally we have many young members of the forum who enjoy owning all of the Zeds, 2 and 3 litre - see what they have to say.

Keep your eye on the For sale section of the forum - whatever you end up with, you'll find they are very special cars.

:driving: :thumbsup:
 
Hey Ash,

As above, find the reg for a 3.0 and run insurance quotes on it first.

I was pleasantly surprised that a quote on my Z4 was cheaper than that of my previous car, a Brabus Smart when I was 21.

If you're planning on just driving the car then maybe a smaller engine now with a view to upgrading in the future is an option, however I'd like to believe that waiting a little longer for the car you want all along would be a better course of action (also assuming you're able to make do with your current car for a few months)

Also an fyi... the pre-facelift z4's with the 3.0 have more reliable super charger kits than that of the 3.0si facelift models.

But 2 years into ownership with a 3.0si, I've yet to find myself wanting any more power.
 
You got yo get some quotes. If a 2.2 is cheap though it would be your best way into a 6 cyl car.

Many of us that have upgraded to the full fat version also found insurance costs dropped, in my case by 20%. Doubt that would be the same in your case, but worth a try/laugh.
 
Go 3.0 or you'll want to change in 3 months! You're budget should allow for a top end 3.0 or low end 3.0si. The 3.0si does have the m sport seats and some other nice bits so I would wait for a bargain. It will save you a lot of time, money and hassle in the long run
 
JonnyB said:
Go 3.0 or you'll want to change in 3 months! You're budget should allow for a top end 3.0 or low end 3.0si. The 3.0si does have the m sport seats and some other nice bits so I would wait for a bargain. It will save you a lot of time, money and hassle in the long run

Not all 3.0si have M sport seats. Only the sport models, SE models have normal sport seats. Si is engine designation, not trim level.

@ OP post your quotes up, just the headline figures againt engine size. You may find a facelift SE card cheaper to ensure than. Sport also.
 
Hi Ash.
I bought my Z4 half a year ago when I was 21. My previous car was a little 1.2 Clio so much like yourself, a bit of a jump. I originally fancied a 2.0 as it would be cheaper to run and insure but after test driving I decided i wanted a bit more and had to see what the 2.5i offered.

To be honest I didn't even look at a 3.0 but I don't regret it at all. At the moment my 2.5i is everything I want.. It's pretty quick and I manage to get around 27/28mpg per tank with a mix of motorway driving and country lane hooning.

Insurance wise- the quotes for a 2.0 and 2.5 were pretty similar.. Only £150 ish per annum between them so I went for the one I thought I would enjoy driving more and I'm glad I made the choice I did.

My advice.. Just take your time and shop around. Take a 2.0 for a test drive to see if you even like the roadster, then compare it to a test drive in a 2.5 or 3.0. For your budget you'll no doubt have a healthy selection of cars to choose from :thumbsup:
 
Sorry guys I have been checking your replies but haven't responded to them straight away ... By looking at a lot of advice and after looking at loads of different examples and driving a few, I have opted for the 2.0, and I've gone for one below my budget so I have plenty of room for upgrading in the future if I feel appropriate! I just didn't feel like I wanted to jump in the deep end with a 3.0 and after considering service and maintenance costs I thought the 2.0 would be more sensible considering I may have a largish budget but that's only due to saving and my income probably won't support large service costs!!

Thank you all for the advice, I'll start a post in a min with pics :)
 
Had our 2.0 for just over a year now it replaced our motorbike for open air fun, just wring its neck and have some fun with it :driving:
 
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