What would have made the 35iS a 'true' M car?

With a bit more power it could have easily had an M badge and quad pipes always have always been an designated M styling thing.

Suspension needs to be better,but it does on most M cars, the Suspension on a Z4M is one of the worst on any car i have driven.

I personally think exaggerated arches would have made it look more individual.
 
I don't know much about the e89 compaired to the E85.

What I do know is that the Z4///M is a vastly different car from the any of the other E85/86s. Many chassis tweaks, a completely different engine, a LSD, completely different brakes, only shared with the M3 CSL, different gear ratios, completely different hydraulic steering, that alone make a huge difference. The bonnet, the side skirts the front and rear bumper s. The little aero tweaks under the car, the exhausts. Oh and some Badges that the marketing men like to stick everywhere they can. :roll:

If there are such engineering differences between the 35is and it,s siblings then perhaps it too should be festuned, if not then, tis just another very fine and fast Zed. :wink:
 
john-e89 said:
Nothing.

The chassis fundamentally flawed, it’d need a complete redesign to make it worth bothering.
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I implore you to come and drive mine John :D
With the E92 M3 front end, M4 brakes, stiffer roll bars and a remap it's completely transformed. Gone is the understeer, gone is all the body roll, all of a sudden it'll demolish a flowing road at a very similar rate to my friends 997 C2S, in fact it'll pull out of a corner better thanks to the mountain of torque.
My VX220 absolutely wouldn't see which way it went :rofl:

To answer the original question, if they built the 35is now they'd stick an M badge in front of it regardless because it's a status symbol for status people. Oh wait, the new car's an M40i...
 
buzyg said:
I don't know much about the e89 compaired to the E85.

What I do know is that the Z4///M is a vastly different car from the any of the other E85/86s. Many chassis tweaks, a completely different engine, a LSD, completely different brakes, only shared with the M3 CSL, different gear ratios, completely different hydraulic steering, that alone make a huge difference. The bonnet, the side skirts the front and rear bumper s. The little aero tweaks under the car, the exhausts. Oh and some Badges that the marketing men like to stick everywhere they can. :roll:

If there are such engineering differences between the 35is and it,s siblings then perhaps it too should be festuned, if not then, tis just another very fine and fast Zed. :wink:
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Side skirts are the same :wink:
 
shuey said:
Fixed carbon fibre roof
Wider track with wider wheel arches
Obviously at least 50bhp more if not 100bhp (don’t know which engine they could stick in)
4 exhaust pipes
Manual transmission
M style number
LSD
Tuned suspension

That’s what I’d say anyway

Of and loads of m badges everywhere just in case there was any doubt
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What he said. :thumbsup:
 
Player 1 said:
Oh wait, the new car's an M40i...
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Yes but it's not a Z4M, so I think they've basically done a 35iS again. Just had a weird naming convention for the E89, really it's the same as the M135i/M240i moniker.
 
Chris1712 said:
Player 1 said:
Oh wait, the new car's an M40i...
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Yes but it's not a Z4M, so I think they've basically done a 35iS again. Just had a weird naming convention for the E89, really it's the same as the M135i/M240i moniker.
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Absolutely. I don't think they started doing the M-lite cars until the M135i, which the 35is was released well ahead of, hence why it was named as such.

Crack out the translate and have a read of this lot;
https://www.drive2.com/r/bmw/z4/915819/
That is the car BMW should've built! S65 V8, E9x M3 front end as on mine, entire rear axle from the E46 M3/Z4M complete with LSD, stonking great brakes and different dampers/roll bars. Add some special wheels, a quad exhaust and a few interior tweaks then it's good to go :thumbsup:
 
Player 1 said:
john-e89 said:
Nothing.

The chassis fundamentally flawed, it’d need a complete redesign to make it worth bothering.
Click to expand...

I implore you to come and drive mine John :D
With the E92 M3 front end, M4 brakes, stiffer roll bars and a remap it's completely transformed. Gone is the understeer, gone is all the body roll, all of a sudden it'll demolish a flowing road at a very similar rate to my friends 997 C2S, in fact it'll pull out of a corner better thanks to the mountain of torque.
My VX220 absolutely wouldn't see which way it went :rofl:

To answer the original question, if they built the 35is now they'd stick an M badge in front of it regardless because it's a status symbol for status people. Oh wait, the new car's an M40i...
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Wait now....an invite to my fav county to try a well modded E89.....get the kettle on sir..!!

Stuartinzig has done some chassis mods to his Player but he’s gone quiet, have a look at his posts out of interest, very nice car too. :thumbsup:
 
john-e89 said:
Player 1 said:
john-e89 said:
Nothing.

The chassis fundamentally flawed, it’d need a complete redesign to make it worth bothering.
Click to expand...

I implore you to come and drive mine John :D
With the E92 M3 front end, M4 brakes, stiffer roll bars and a remap it's completely transformed. Gone is the understeer, gone is all the body roll, all of a sudden it'll demolish a flowing road at a very similar rate to my friends 997 C2S, in fact it'll pull out of a corner better thanks to the mountain of torque.
My VX220 absolutely wouldn't see which way it went :rofl:

To answer the original question, if they built the 35is now they'd stick an M badge in front of it regardless because it's a status symbol for status people. Oh wait, the new car's an M40i...
Click to expand...

Wait now....an invite to my fav county to try a well modded E89.....get the kettle on sir..!!

Stuartinzig has done some chassis mods to his Player but he’s gone quiet, have a look at his posts out of interest, very nice car too. :thumbsup:
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Welcome to call in for a coffee if you’re going past John :thumbsup:
Rob
 
srhutch said:
buzyg said:
I don't know much about the e89 compaired to the E85.

What I do know is that the Z4///M is a vastly different car from the any of the other E85/86s. Many chassis tweaks, a completely different engine, a LSD, completely different brakes, only shared with the M3 CSL, different gear ratios, completely different hydraulic steering, that alone make a huge difference. The bonnet, the side skirts the front and rear bumper s. The little aero tweaks under the car, the exhausts. Oh and some Badges that the marketing men like to stick everywhere they can. :roll:

If there are such engineering differences between the 35is and it,s siblings then perhaps it too should be festuned, if not then, tis just another very fine and fast Zed. :wink:
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Side skirts are the same :wink:
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That's it there going. :oops: :lol:
 
Smartbear said:
john-e89 said:
Cheers Rob...will be popping down at some point in summer, I’ll give you a shout mate.. :thumbsup:
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I’m a 5 minute drive from the Haines motor museum :thumbsup:
Rob
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Didn't realise you had bought Sir Walter Raleigh's old pad. :thumbsup:
 
The 'M' version may of well looked something like this........ http://www.bimmerkit.com/z4/e89-z4-widebody.html
 
Player 1 said:
Smartbear said:
john-e89 said:
Cheers Rob...will be popping down at some point in summer, I’ll give you a shout mate.. :thumbsup:
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I’m a 5 minute drive from the Haines motor museum :thumbsup:
Rob
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Haines breakfast club on the first Sunday of each month, perfect :thumbsup:
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I am keen for this once the weathers back, but it's so busy and early. I can't do anything at 8am on a Sunday let alone talk to strangers in a field.
 
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