http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPEOXG-5w0g&feature=related
Anyone from here?
(Apologies if a repost)
Anyone from here?
(Apologies if a repost)
What not to do at Castle Combe
- Thread starter Darren M
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I've been sideways round that corner as a passenger and it shook me up a bit. Also saw an RS4 write off on the same bend that day.
It's a nasty one, quite an impact, I know it's a tyre wall but the car held up extremely well I thought.
Having no real track experience why did he crash?
Having watched it a couple of times am I right in thinking he braked as turned slightly to the left? The road rises up there, so guessing this and the braking/turn is what swung the weigh around?
It's a nasty one, quite an impact, I know it's a tyre wall but the car held up extremely well I thought.
Having no real track experience why did he crash?
Having watched it a couple of times am I right in thinking he braked as turned slightly to the left? The road rises up there, so guessing this and the braking/turn is what swung the weigh around?
thattallchap
Member
wouldn't have happened in a Coupe 
obviously I'm joking, bit of bad luck or a complete lack of driving talent but it does look like an expensive trip!
obviously I'm joking, bit of bad luck or a complete lack of driving talent but it does look like an expensive trip!
Hark said:
Been around Combe a few times and you have to get the hard braking done at the right place/time for that corner. The car will go light as you go over the rise and it bends to the left a little over peak of the rise I think before the right turn so need to keep it straightI think(not an expert myself.
I've seen a caterham thing go off at the same corner and as the guy was just getting out a heavy salaoon crash straght into it - the caterham was a right mess and the driver was lucky to get out of the car when he did.
Cheburator
Member
You do your braking after the left kink within the little straight bit before the proper right hander... It sounds impossible, but it is doable...
The comments on YouTube videos will be the demise of our civilisation 
Horrible hit and everyones worst nightmare; sympathies to the owner. Definitely a write off, I wonder if he had insurance....at least it held up well and he wasn't hurt. Hard to see the cause in the video....
I did Oulton Park last week and the lead instructor told me he used to have a Z4M Coupe. He said he would always leave the DSC on as its too twitchy for track work without. Interesting from a guy I think you can assume knows his stuff....?
Horrible hit and everyones worst nightmare; sympathies to the owner. Definitely a write off, I wonder if he had insurance....at least it held up well and he wasn't hurt. Hard to see the cause in the video....
I did Oulton Park last week and the lead instructor told me he used to have a Z4M Coupe. He said he would always leave the DSC on as its too twitchy for track work without. Interesting from a guy I think you can assume knows his stuff....?
First I've heard of a supposed advanced instructor who would consider DSC on when on track. 
Liverpool
I've done something very similar at CC in my Corrado days.
A Grant Motorsport Golf was using the day as a unofficial test day for their race the following weekend, and he was simply ignoring the normal track day rules about overtaking on the left/right/by consent/etc, and was overtaking (or trying to) in the braking areas. It was only when I saw him out of my side window did I realise that he'd tried to do the same to me, but had not spotted my car was not particularly standard. I was fortunate enough to notice him with enough time to lift of a little so that he didn't come straight into my driver's door, and went much deeper into the corner than I usually would have
Of course, this meant there was less grip on this part of the corner, and I went ploughing off the track onto the grass. Luckily the grass was dry and I manage to keep it off the tyre wall (but there is a footpath about halfway along that came as a bit of a shock), and rejoined the track right behind him, and stuck to him for the next 10 laps or so until he peeled off for the pits :x
For the rest of the morning I simply chased him at every opportunity, and I think he spent more time looking in his mirrors than learning the car or track.
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At another CC event there was this guy with a Golf VR6 who was giving it loads about being a great driver but never been to CC before. I offered to show him the lines and the dangers, and for 4 or 5 laps we did a follow-the-leader procession, getting a bit faster on each lap.
After the 5th lap or so he starts flashing his lights, so I pull into the pits and he says he's getting bored and wants to step it up a gear. Fine with me, so off we go for another series of laps, but starting at about 8/10ths instead. 2 laps in and he's following me through Hammerdown at about 100mph and the next minute he's disappeared. I look around as I brake for and drive through the next corner and can't see him, so assume he's gone off into the wheat field in the middle of the circuit.
I get back to the pits just in time to see the recovery truck going out, and 5 minutes later this sick looking guy returns with what's left of his VR6.
He claimed he simply understeered off behind me through Hammerdown and then did a few pirouettes along the tyre wall. The only panel without damage was the roof
The car was a right off, and he had no track day insurance at all, and it was a company car - and this was at the time that the car's were only 3 years old, so would still have been worth £15k.
We tried to cheer him up a bit by giving him some 10/10th and 11/10ths laps and showing him how fast you really could go around CC.
A Grant Motorsport Golf was using the day as a unofficial test day for their race the following weekend, and he was simply ignoring the normal track day rules about overtaking on the left/right/by consent/etc, and was overtaking (or trying to) in the braking areas. It was only when I saw him out of my side window did I realise that he'd tried to do the same to me, but had not spotted my car was not particularly standard. I was fortunate enough to notice him with enough time to lift of a little so that he didn't come straight into my driver's door, and went much deeper into the corner than I usually would have
Of course, this meant there was less grip on this part of the corner, and I went ploughing off the track onto the grass. Luckily the grass was dry and I manage to keep it off the tyre wall (but there is a footpath about halfway along that came as a bit of a shock), and rejoined the track right behind him, and stuck to him for the next 10 laps or so until he peeled off for the pits :x
For the rest of the morning I simply chased him at every opportunity, and I think he spent more time looking in his mirrors than learning the car or track.
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At another CC event there was this guy with a Golf VR6 who was giving it loads about being a great driver but never been to CC before. I offered to show him the lines and the dangers, and for 4 or 5 laps we did a follow-the-leader procession, getting a bit faster on each lap.
After the 5th lap or so he starts flashing his lights, so I pull into the pits and he says he's getting bored and wants to step it up a gear. Fine with me, so off we go for another series of laps, but starting at about 8/10ths instead. 2 laps in and he's following me through Hammerdown at about 100mph and the next minute he's disappeared. I look around as I brake for and drive through the next corner and can't see him, so assume he's gone off into the wheat field in the middle of the circuit.
I get back to the pits just in time to see the recovery truck going out, and 5 minutes later this sick looking guy returns with what's left of his VR6.
He claimed he simply understeered off behind me through Hammerdown and then did a few pirouettes along the tyre wall. The only panel without damage was the roof
The car was a right off, and he had no track day insurance at all, and it was a company car - and this was at the time that the car's were only 3 years old, so would still have been worth £15k.
We tried to cheer him up a bit by giving him some 10/10th and 11/10ths laps and showing him how fast you really could go around CC.