What is going on in the world !

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No doubt you have seen the story about "Sweetie" - a computer generated 10 year old Filipino girl used by a charity to trap paedophiles - within minutes literally thousands of men across the world ( 1000 in Britain ) have contacted her , many trying to get her to undress in front of the web cam.

Of course I'm well aware that such people exist - my last 9 years before retirement was working within a prison for sex offenders - but the magnitude of this is shocking . The good news of course is that these men will be traced and will find themselves waiting for a knock on the door.
 
the internet has made 'kids' are more accessible in the past several years - chat sites, forums, facebook, catfish sort of stuff..

I wouldn't say there are more paedophiles than say 10 or 20 years ago. Just that technology has meant more of these cunts are experimenting via an internet feed, than say the public toilets or local parks of years gone by
 
ranski said:
the internet has made 'kids' are more accessible in the past several years - chat sites, forums, facebook, catfish sort of stuff..

I wouldn't say there are more paedophiles than say 10 or 20 years ago. Just that technology has meant more of these cunts are experimenting via an internet feed, than say the public toilets or local parks of years gone by
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x 1 the closet perverts of the past who weren't 'brave' enough to do anything about their perversion are now enjoying access via the internet.
 
I have the shotgun, so if you supply one we can experiment :)
 
I think it always went on but it was just brushed under the carpet and never reported. Was there a time, not so long ago, when this sort of thing and child abuse was very common in a lot of familys?

Saw a documentary about Fred West the other day, his weird upbringing etc which was normal to him and it made me wonder...
 
Not heard of the 'Sweetie' sting at all before I read this post.
Disappointing part is that it's an initiative from a charity when it should be the Police service that should be driving a proactive approach to these issues.
I really hope they act on the information that's been gathered.
 
First
Well done to the charity sting people

20.000 men amongst billions online. Vile as they are I am not that downhearted. In the village I grew up in fifty years ago it was standard to swap a tractor driving experience for trouser snake groping. Nobody really cared. We were warned to watch our step and that was it.

I suspect there is less child sexual abuse now than there ever was so I am a bit baffled by the anger, vigilanteism, and vehemence of the current culture towards what is basically a nasty sexual dysfunction. In fact I wonder if the stigma might stop pedophiles coming forward for treatment. Sex drives can be overwhelming, just say no you creepy weirdo isn't really a brilliant policy. Plus, most sexual abuse is within the family. How are abused children helped to come forward, make accusations, if they think their father (whom they probably love) may be shot down like a dog if exposed?

I do think a more reflective approach would probably work better for children in the longer term.

just sayin.
 
What a post....it makes me angry and sad at the same time.. I agree with Gargybloke
Gargybloke said:
I think it always went on but it was just brushed under the carpet and never reported. Was there a time, not so long ago, when this sort of thing and child abuse was very common in a lot of familys?

Saw a documentary about Fred West the other day, his weird upbringing etc which was normal to him and it made me wonder...
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I grew up in the UK way back in the late 50's and early 60's. As a kid we heard about this stuff but rarely saw anything weird . If you did you just ran like hell. Our parents didn't keep us in a cocoon like today, I think if the internet was available back then the amount of info available wold have really freaked out our parents....and I would have had a very different childhood.

As for the shotgun remedy, great idea but it's much better to use a bat, (something not considered an offensive weapon when you go to court). I don't have any kids but I'm surrounded by them, scores of them in my immediate area and the other night I paid off the protection money to most of them with chocolate bars and assorted candies.

If I spotted anything weird going down with my neighbours kids I would definitely do something rash...
 
ranski said:
the internet has made 'kids' are more accessible in the past several years - chat sites, forums, facebook, catfish sort of stuff..

I wouldn't say there are more paedophiles than say 10 or 20 years ago. Just that technology has meant more of these cunts are experimenting via an internet feed, than say the public toilets or local parks of years gone by
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I read that on BBC news too... hopefully this news going public will make those sicko's think twice... they think they are safe behind their computers... think again :!:
 
Finisterre said:
First
Well done to the charity sting people

20.000 men amongst billions online. Vile as they are I am not that downhearted. In the village I grew up in fifty years ago it was standard to swap a tractor driving experience for trouser snake groping. Nobody really cared. We were warned to watch our step and that was it.

I suspect there is less child sexual abuse now than there ever was so I am a bit baffled by the anger, vigilanteism, and vehemence of the current culture towards what is basically a nasty sexual dysfunction. In fact I wonder if the stigma might stop pedophiles coming forward for treatment. Sex drives can be overwhelming, just say no you creepy weirdo isn't really a brilliant policy. Plus, most sexual abuse is within the family. How are abused children helped to come forward, make accusations, if they think their father (whom they probably love) may be shot down like a dog if exposed?

I do think a more reflective approach would probably work better for children in the longer term.

just sayin.
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This is true - if something "turns" you on, it turns you on, end of! So for someone to be "turned" on by whatever they see in young kids, is just their sexual kick, just like some people are turned-on by boobs, blondes etc etc.

I"M NOT SAYING ITS OK!

I'm just saying, the sexual desire is, for some people, kids. Its not morally or legally right, so I do feel sorry for them, from the point of view that they can't help the urge.

However, they can help the outcome - by resisting the urges etc and basically not doing it. But locking someone up will probably not help to remove the urges.

From the kids point of view.....is it right that parents allow them to use the internet unsupervised, allow them to set up social media accounts even though they are under age? Parents should be restricting such access....but with todays technology thats probably impossible. The problem is innocent kids have access to these sites and don't know the dangers....until its too late. This isn't the kids fault, its the peodo's fault for taking advantage.

And whilst I just said I feel sorry for the peodo's predicament due to urges, the second they act on that urge (either by doing something or targeting someone for grooming etc) I have nothing but disgust for them.
 
Did anyone watch 'Louis Theroux A Place for Paedophiles'

A US based 'correction facility' where the majority of the offenders knew were never getting out

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Paedophiles, unfortunately , don't believe they are doing anything wrong -in many cases of child rape the offender honestly believes the victim led them on. I personally think they have a flaw in their chemical makeup that makes their thinking different from normal individuals - they cannot stop themselves. There is no cure for this disorder (other than perhaps chemical castration). If they have been imprisoned they can complete SOTP ( sex offenders treatment programme ) - this isn't a cure but can teach them to avoid situations and circumstances that might lead to opportunity or temptation.

As regards voluntarily seeking help outside of prison I'm not aware of any cases of this happening - the reason most sex offenders inside complete SOTP is to improve their chances of early release on parole - or if serving life the only way of ever being considered for release.
 
Hadn't heard about this until I read it either - it is shocking, but not unexpected. I think the best thing about it is the stark 'truth' that it presents to people who have until now heard the occasional story and seen the school briefing but never really thought about it.

The offenders are sick, and I agree that such base instincts are mostly simply just 'there' and not a choice - that doesn't make it right, but it does make the existence of these people inevitable. However. This sort of thing should be used to round them up and help them, somehow, before they do some real physical harm to a child in the real world. If they DO harm children in the real world, or cause them to harm themselves, then I am in the chemical castration camp. But not for just attempting to groom online, because...

...it is completely the responsibility of parents to safeguard their children online, just as it is in almost every aspect of their lives. And it is possible. Problems include parents ignoring what their kids are doing, using technology as a way of getting them out of their hair, not wanting to conform or censure their children... Though mostly probably the biggest issue is simple ignorance of the dangers and what parental controls are possible / necessary / actually pretty easy to implement on a PC, tablet or other device.

Tell you an idea that might help - when you order a laptop or PC you answer specific questions about who will use the device, how old they are, what they will use it for, and whether you want restrictions to be applied. Then it is delivered with profiles & a selected internet security product pre-configured, including very straightforward instructions as to what it does and how to work it.

Perhaps the government could provide part funding for a scheme to encourage people to have a local professional check their pc's and set them up properly - protecting children and society as well as stimulating local business....
 
I do believe the disire for a young healthy girl/women is (mostly) hard wired. Look at the following life expectancy tables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy Throughout most of human history. Females have been having babies at a very young age. Simply because it was biologically and sociatally normal. A girl starts her monthly cycle for a biological reason. What has changed in the last one hundred years or so is the fact that our life expectancy has increased dramatically. along with that came a change in the rules as it pertains to what is concidered the proper age of consent. What hasn't changed. Is the human brain. And so the brain is in battle between instinct and morals as set forth by the rule makers. Those folk that have an imbalance of some sort are unable to control that desire (whether that desire is sexual or something else) and act upon them. Add to that. The sexualazation of society. Just turn on the Telly or log onto the Internet. We have so many conflicting signals. As well as a generally progressive attitude that our bodies are our own. And we should be allowed to do as we wish with them. (with only a few exceptions)

Of course I hit the post button with a certain amount of trepidation. As the discussion of such subjects can be highly charged.
 
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