Waxing

[chrisba]

Now you're talking!

Amazing you had to get to the most expensive wax on the common market to find this!

Still, put it on an unpolished car and you've wasted that 800 quid because it won't shine!

Do some googling!

I didn't HAVE to go to that extreme to find a wax without fillers that will improve the look of paintwork.

Nobody is suggesting putting it on an un-polished car however stating it will do nothing to improve the looks on fully corrected paint is crazy.

Not really sure what I'm Googling but I'm sure I can find something to pass the time if I must

 

[StJimmyL]

Next time you wax, put some tape down. Post the picture of the difference on this thread.

 

[StJimmyL]

Watch this - he talks sense and is highly regarded on detailing forums...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eiIEHn-9qo8

 

[chrisba]

I give up...

Just to confirm, you believe if i was to fully correct my paintwork and then apply a few coats of Crystal Rock it will make absolutely no difference to the finish and look yes?

 

[StJimmyL]

Wax protects the paint. Polish corrects it. It's the first thing they teach you when you do a detailing class.

Post a pic, prove me wrong.

Not a marketing pic though!

 

[StevenH72]

Watch this - he talks sense and is highly regarded on detailing forums...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eiIEHn-9qo8

Why bother with wax then, why not just use a synthetic sealant which offers a better level of protection.

Does 95% carnauba offer superior protection over 70%?

 

[chrisba]

Wax protects the paint. Polish corrects it. It's the first thing they teach you when you do a detailing class.

Post a pic, prove me wrong.

Not a marketing pic though!

Absolutely not denying that statement at all and i'd agree 100% but you haven't answered my question...

Just to confirm, you believe if i was to fully correct my paintwork and then apply a few coats of Crystal Rock it will make absolutely no difference to the finish and look yes?

 

[StJimmyL]

I've never used the swissvax you mention. With poorboys, dodo, Meg's.... I've never seen a difference once applied protection, yes. Waxes with added fillers, yes, but only when swirls are present.

Now I ask the same question of you?

 

[StJimmyL]

Watch this - he talks sense and is highly regarded on detailing forums...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eiIEHn-9qo8

Why bother with wax then, why not just use a synthetic sealant which offers a better level of protection.

Does 95% carnauba offer superior protection over 70%?

No more protection, but better longevity, man made sealant will be even better, but will take more effort to properly apply.

 

[Johnalexander]

I didn't realise that waxing could be so science like. What is the best way to top up the shine after you have been driving for a few weeks?

 

[StJimmyL]

I didn't realise that waxing could be so science like. What is the best way to top up the shine after you have been driving for a few weeks?

To remove grime regularly use a quick retailer like meguiars ultimate quick detailed from halfords. It will lift the grime up and lubricate so when u remove with a. Good quality microfiber tiny scratches are very minimal. Yon won't boost the shine, but light will hit the paint better.

 

[Johnalexander]

Will QD scratch the paint?

 

[chrisba]

I didn't realise that waxing could be so science like. What is the best way to top up the shine after you have been driving for a few weeks?

To remove grime regularly use a quick retailer like meguiars ultimate quick detailed from halfords. It will lift the grime up and lubricate so when u remove with a. Good quality microfiber tiny scratches are very minimal. You won't boost the shine, but light will hit the paint better.

Oh god he's off again

 

[StJimmyL]

Will QD scratch the paint?

No mate, but the dirt or grit that might he on the car will.

 

[chrisba]

I've never used the swissvax you mention. With poorboys, dodo, Meg's.... I've never seen a difference once applied protection, yes. Waxes with added fillers, yes, but only when swirls are present.

Now I ask the same question of you?

I've never used it either but I do believe it would improve the look, yes.

You still haven't answered my question though.

Just to confirm, you believe if i was to fully correct my paintwork and then apply a few coats of Crystal Rock it will make absolutely no difference to the finish and look?

I'm not asking have you used it. In simply asking what you THINK.

 

[StJimmyL]

I've never used the swissvax you mention. With poorboys, dodo, Meg's.... I've never seen a difference once applied protection, yes. Waxes with added fillers, yes, but only when swirls are present.

Now I ask the same question of you?

I've never used it either but I do believe it would improve the look, yes.

You still haven't answered my question though.

Just to confirm, you believe if i was to fully correct my paintwork and then apply a few coats of Crystal Rock it will make absolutely no difference to the finish and look?

I'm not asking have you used it. In simply asking what you THINK.

If the car has minor imprecations, then yes, the oils in the wax will fill these and make it look more shiny than before.

If you spend a few days correcting the paint so it is totally smooth, my bet would be that you would be hard pushed to tell the difference, the oils in the wax may pick up the light slightly more. That wax would last 6-9 months I reckon as they pack it full of carnauba.

Basically, the higher end waxes have a much greater ratio of carnauba. 30%+ as opposed to2 or 3%

Experience is thatifyouw a tartly good looking car restore the paint and don't scratch it all up again. Keep it protected with the best sealant and wax u can aquire.

You'll always get someone brush up against your dirty car and put some imperfections in the clear coat, these will come out with a yearly light cut. Don't fight it, just know you can put it right.

It's all about the technique

 

[Bing]

I would never use QD between washes on my car in the winter, for same reason I won't use ONR in the winter - it simply gets too dirty and IMO the road grit and dirt is too significant in size and volume to avoid scratching. I only ever use QD between washes in the summer as the car tends to get dusty as opposed to dirty. Also, QD won't get all the salt and crap out of the panel gaps and nooks and crannies in the wheels.

 

[StJimmyL]

I would never use QD between washes on my car in the winter, for same reason I won't use ONR in the winter - it simply gets too dirty and IMO the road grit and dirt is too significant in size and volume to avoid scratching. I only ever use QD between washes in the summer as the car tends to get dusty as opposed to dirty. Also, QD won't get all the salt and crap out of the panel gaps and nooks and crannies in the wheels.

Exactly!

 

[StJimmyL]

Here's one for chrisba.

When you walk I to a bmw showroom, are the cars waxed? No - they are shiny from the factory!

 

[chrisba]

I've never used the swissvax you mention. With poorboys, dodo, Meg's.... I've never seen a difference once applied protection, yes. Waxes with added fillers, yes, but only when swirls are present.

Now I ask the same question of you?

I've never used it either but I do believe it would improve the look, yes.

You still haven't answered my question though.

Just to confirm, you believe if i was to fully correct my paintwork and then apply a few coats of Crystal Rock it will make absolutely no difference to the finish and look?

I'm not asking have you used it. In simply asking what you THINK.

If the car has minor imprecations, then yes, the oils in the wax will fill these and make it look more shiny than before.

If you spend a few days correcting the paint so it is totally smooth, my bet would be that you would be hard pushed to tell the difference, the oils in the wax may pick up the light slightly more. That wax would last 6-9 months I reckon as they pack it full of carnauba.

Basically, the higher end waxes have a much greater ratio of carnauba. 30%+ as opposed to2 or 3%

Experience is thatifyouw a tartly good looking car restore the paint and don't scratch it all up again. Keep it protected with the best sealant and wax u can aquire.

You'll always get someone brush up against your dirty car and put some imperfections in the clear coat, these will come out with a yearly light cut. Don't fight it, just know you can put it right.

It's all about the technique

"The oils in the wax may pick up the light slightly more".

What result would that have then?

You can veer away from the question all you like, we both know the answer to the question.

I'm not going to argue the point any more. I know the answer to my question, you know the answer to my question and every other person who has any interest in detailing knows.

Over and out.