VANOS

[and7rp2]

Have been noticing a small rattle on start up , from the front of the engine.
Reading on here I decided it was the vanos causing the noise.
Mike, ( ducklakeview ) had done the mod to my exhaust and he mentioned he could do the vanos.
Well today Mike has done the job , big thanks , but this isn’t the only reason for the post.
My 04 zed has only done 64000 miles and I have always been pleasantly pleased with the performance from the 3.0 engine , however the drive home from Mikes , the car has transformed into a sports car, my god there is a whole load of mid range torque .
My point , I’ve known no different as I’ve had the car for 2years but only done 6000 miles. But those of you who have had your car over a number of years have you noticed a drop off in mid range ?
The seals on my vanos pistons where rock hard and passing oil badly !!
Can’t recommend having this job done enough , wether you use Mike or not ,it’s amazing

 

[Ducklakeview]

Have been noticing a small rattle on start up , from the front of the engine.
Reading on here I decided it was the vanos causing the noise.
Mike, ( ducklakeview ) had done the mod to my exhaust and he mentioned he could do the vanos.
Well today Mike has done the job , big thanks , but this isn’t the only reason for the post.
My 04 zed has only done 64000 miles and I have always been pleasantly pleased with the performance from the 3.0 engine , however the drive home from Mikes , the car has transformed into a sports car, my god there is a whole load of mid range torque .
My point , I’ve known no different as I’ve had the car for 2years but only done 6000 miles. But those of you who have had your car over a number of years have you noticed a drop off in mid range ?
The seals on my vanos pistons where rock hard and passing oil badly !!
Can’t recommend having this job done enough , wether you use Mike or not ,it’s amazing

Cheers Andy, told you it would transform the car!!

Mike

 

[ph001]

Is this the seals on the solenoids Mike?

 

[Marlon]

Mine has a little rattle on start up
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now

 

[idej_z4]

Mine has a little rattle on start up
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now

I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?

 

[Marlon]

Mine has a little rattle on start up
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now

I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?

Actually, yeah I remember reading that somewhere, and mine goes like a stabbed rat when I press the pedal on the right

 

[idej_z4]

Mine has a little rattle on start up
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now

I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?

Actually, yeah I remember reading that somewhere, and mine goes like a stabbed rat when I press the pedal on the right

Stabbing rats eh...is that what you moderators get up to in your spare time.

 

[mcbeee]

Stabbed rats generally rollover and die, not sure I want my car to behave
like that.... :lol: :lol:

 

[Ducklakeview]

Is this the seals on the solenoids Mike?

No, the seals on the actual pistons inside the cylinders attached to the front of the camshafts. These are controlled by the solenoids which let the oil in, but as the seals die after as little as 30k, it just gushes back out into the engine and doesn't advance the camshafts. You don't get any errors, although they can rattle a little when cold. What you also don't get is the massive wedge of torque between 2k and 5k that the system was designed to give you. You don't lose out on top end power, just mid range grunt.

Mike

 

[Boris]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

 

[Ducklakeview]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

2.2 suffers with same problem. Disa valves on all of the M54 engines can lack up and fall apart..

Mike

 

[salb]

Hi mike,

A newbie here and only had the car 3 days and has done 45,000 miles.

My question is when is it recommended to refurb the vanos on the E89, it is a 2012.

thanks
sal

 

[Boris]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

2.2 suffers with same problem. Disa valves on all of the M54 engines can lack up and fall apart..

Mike

Cheers Mike

 

[Smartbear]

Hi mike,

A newbie here and only had the car 3 days and has done 45,000 miles.

My question is when is it recommended to refurb the vanos on the E89, it is a 2012.

thanks
sal

Hi, I don’t think the n20 engine is known to have vanos issues-since the n52 engine appeared they seem to have got on top of the seal material used
Rob

 

[Rusky]

This is high up on my list as mine lacks any grunt below about 3.5k. A trip to Mike will be planned in the early part of next year.

 

[Dave1971]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

There is a BMW guy in Darlington that specialises in VANOS refurbished called Mr VANOS, he’s got a good reputation but I wasn’t keen on him when I met him and he’s not cheap.

I ended up using Dean from D W Motorworks for the VANOS refurb on my old ///M and he was great. He’s an ex BMW master tech and has a great reputation he’s also a lot cheaper than the guy in Darlington.

http://www.dwmotorworks.co.uk/

 

[salb]

I am probably going to use mike in St.Helens as he has a good rapport with fellow members on here and by the sound of it

an excellent reputation.

sal

 

[Boris]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

There is a BMW guy in Darlington that specialises in VANOS refurbished called Mr VANOS, he’s got a good reputation but I wasn’t keen on him when I met him and he’s not cheap.

I ended up using Dean from D W Motorworks for the VANOS refurb on my old ///M and he was great. He’s an ex BMW master tech and has a great reputation he’s also a lot cheaper than the guy in Darlington.

http://www.dwmotorworks.co.uk/

Cheers Dave,

If I haven't managed to pin Mike down before the spring when the car comes out again I may well give them a go.

Nev

 

[Ducklakeview]

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev

There is a BMW guy in Darlington that specialises in VANOS refurbished called Mr VANOS, he’s got a good reputation but I wasn’t keen on him when I met him and he’s not cheap.

I ended up using Dean from D W Motorworks for the VANOS refurb on my old ///M and he was great. He’s an ex BMW master tech and has a great reputation he’s also a lot cheaper than the guy in Darlington.

http://www.dwmotorworks.co.uk/

Cheers Dave,

If I haven't managed to pin Mike down before the spring when the car comes out again I may well give them a go.

Nev

Pin away... I guarantee I'm A LOT less expensive!

Mike

 

[MACK]

Any good indie or certainly a specialist can do this job in about 3 hours. No need to go trekking around the country to folks here there and everywhere. If you've got a garage or specialist local to you then ask then about it. The kit can be had for as little as £25 (without rattle rings) from i6automotive and garages labour garages are from £35 upwards (certainly in the northwest) . Other bits such as a rocker gasket are good practise to replace etc but £250 in vat upwards would be the going rate to expect depending on labour rates and whether they use own or aftermarket gaskets etc.