Vanos quicky

monkadill

Senior member
Regarding the Vanos going on the Z's is it somthing that happens with milage, i.e. if your car is coming unto a certain milage is it prone to go? Is it something that is checked on the Inspection 2 service?
 
very little mention of vanos probs on the z4 forum , more usual on the z3, especially the s50 engine, lots of info on the zroadster forum :thumbsup:
 
Agreed, the Z4 seems to have far more reliable vanos than the 3series and Z3 engined 6's. There are several Zeds well over 100k miles on here and i've not heard it discussed much, other than by people starting out. Fingers crossed. :)

Any particular reason for the question?
 
I think you can generally hear if there are any problems. Any strange noises from that area need addressing asap.
 
The vanos is still a mistery to me... I know it does something at about 4.000 rpm as the hp suddenly drops on the graph, but not a clue what that thingy does :oops:
 
A slight relief as my Z has done 74k.

I was reading DonJon's thread were he had to get his done and wanted to know how common the issue is and what the causes are -http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=68622&start=15
 
If you have the camcover off (maybe leaky gasket or so), get the vanos seals done too.
They will go eventually. It is the same parts as the z3 & e46, only newer and generally with less mileage. That's why there are less issues (yet)
The seals will harden eventually and start to leak.
I did mine (preventative, I installed new cams&the lot so it would be stupid not to completely overhaul the vanos), and while still good (no vanos complaints), especially the rubber O rings beneath the teflon seals (the o rings are there to provide tension on the seal) already began to harden (rubber hardens in time when submerged in hot engine oil).

So it's a matter of time and mileage.

To get the vanos out in a z4 (with m54), you have to remove the rubber engine mounts and drop the engine for about 1" otherwise the vanos unit won't clear the front chassisbeam/brace. That is imo the easiest way (better than trying to remove the m4 studs from the block)

Once you have the vanos off the car it's a simple procedure with cheap parts.

You cannot 'check' the vanos seals (well, not without removing the vanos). Either it rattles, or it doesn't.

There is a big difference between the s54 and m54 vanos; the writing above is based on the m54 vanos (I have no idea what car the TS has or what vanos he means, this isn't posted in 'm specific' so...). The s54 vanos can fail in a way that can destroy the engine (nothing to do with the seals though), so preventive maintenance/upgrading may be done on different point of view ;) . The m54 vanos won't fail in a manner that it destroys the engine imho, it doesnt have the s54 weaknesses as it is of different construction.
 
Regular oil changes will also prevent wear. Certainly i noticed fresh oil in my E36 M3 Evo made the vanos a lot quieter. Granted its a different system but the basics i imagine are similar.
 
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