Euro 7 is for new vehicles from 2025. Forums tend to be comfortable for members with a similar and unchallenged view. A little thought provoking comment is necessary for balance. Most Z4's I believe are ULEZ compliant but I am thinking further in the future. Cities are becoming more populated than ever before and there are far more vehicles. Does there have to be a cut-off point? I think so.Mr Tidy said:
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as someone on another forum said,
drive a diesel car = low CO2, high NO2 - kill the planet slowly, kill people quickly.
drive a petrol car = high CO2, low NO2 - kill the planet quickly, kill people slowly.
i'm glad i only travel to london occasionally, i can benefit from low vehicle tax, and high mpg. paying £12 every time i go to london is worth it for the fact that i get 38mpg the rest of the time, rather than the 28mpg i'd get running an equivalent power petrol car.
just done the maths... actually, in my diesel car it costs £10 less to drive to london and back than a petrol car would, so that almost pays for the LEZ charge anyways...
drive a diesel car = low CO2, high NO2 - kill the planet slowly, kill people quickly.
drive a petrol car = high CO2, low NO2 - kill the planet quickly, kill people slowly.
i'm glad i only travel to london occasionally, i can benefit from low vehicle tax, and high mpg. paying £12 every time i go to london is worth it for the fact that i get 38mpg the rest of the time, rather than the 28mpg i'd get running an equivalent power petrol car.
just done the maths... actually, in my diesel car it costs £10 less to drive to london and back than a petrol car would, so that almost pays for the LEZ charge anyways...
Don't suppose they are great when having to carry a weeks shopping or getting the kids to school when the school are at opposite ends of the bus route or separate buses even.BeeEmm said:I drove a rail replacement bus yesterday in London. Did a 12 hour shift and loved it. People really appreciated the journeys. Buses are great.MikeyH said:
I have had a free bus pass for two years now and used it twice. Once to get back home after dropping the car off at a garage and the second to get back to the garage to pick the car up again.
:rofl: :rofl: you see public transport has it's uses after allNanu said:Don't suppose they are great when having to carry a weeks shopping or getting the kids to school when the school are at opposite ends of the bus route or separate buses even.BeeEmm said:I drove a rail replacement bus yesterday in London. Did a 12 hour shift and loved it. People really appreciated the journeys. Buses are great.MikeyH said:
I have had a free bus pass for two years now and used it twice. Once to get back home after dropping the car off at a garage and the second to get back to the garage to pick the car up again.
oke: I used to get two buses to and from school every school day. I loved the independence. What's changed? Of course, it is the parents that have changed and they influence the kids. Everybody seems to have a car these days and school routes are congested every school day. Parents that are driving are selfish or incompetent or both and park everywhere they can causing huge delays to other motorists. How different the journey to work is during school holidays.Nanu said:
Nanu said:
Plenty wrong with EVs, but not this. I’m on 20k on a single set of PS4 tyres on my EV daily, 3/4 driven carefully and 1/4 like it’s stolen :rofl:
Depending which EV, brakes are hardly touched. Regeneration from the motors gives for one pedal driving most of the time, to the point that the discs can rust badly if you rarely boot it to use them!
To my mind the big problem is very simply put:
We cannot have this level of civilisation without that level of untenable consumption.
And no-one is going to address the point that we would have to wind back one to address the other. So, eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die, as someone once said.
We cannot have this level of civilisation without that level of untenable consumption.
And no-one is going to address the point that we would have to wind back one to address the other. So, eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die, as someone once said.
That poster is slightly flawed and is also misleading, because nothing is that simplistic, tyre wear is not necessarily higher than an IC vehicle and brake wear is actually lower. The CO2 difference is in the manufacturing of the battery, and whilst significant think about where we also use batteries! The one thing that is correct, the rare metals used in batteries are conflict materials. What it doesn’t include is the potential to recycle batteries, another potential industry in itself.
If you want to travel far greenly, you’ll have to wait until Hydrogen become readily available, produced by photovoltaic energy
If you want to travel far greenly, you’ll have to wait until Hydrogen become readily available, produced by photovoltaic energy
Not according to Kardashev, we are only limited by what we are willing to do, there is enough energy available to harness from our star, 2 x 10^17 Watts, which at present levels is about 4000 times more than we use now, Hydrogen is a great way of storing this energy, we just need to collect it.smorris_12 said:
No, that would be a Type II civilization, were not close to a Type I yet! That 2 x 10^17 Watts comes from pure solar radiation which reaches Earth. We can make photovoltaic relatively cheaply, place them in strategic places around the globe where it's sunny all the time. Take the energy from that to a place near water and convert both using electrolysis to Hydrogen, which is then transported to where it's needed, converting it back to electricity. Everywhere else, all buildings should have photovoltaic panels on the roof and walls on taller buildings, all using technology we currently have. We just don't have the political will or the public desire to make it so.MikeyH said:
