Ulez

[ronk]

I have sympathy with the folk caught in the Londons / Kahn’s expansion of the ULEZ zone.

If the air pollution is indeed so bad, should his own transport not be reflecting those necessary changes?

More dual standards and hypocrisy. No doubt he will bleat on about his security.

I suspect it’s coming to a town near all of us soon.

 

[TitanTim]

I just think it's a brilliant way of helping to kill off towns if expanded. Who wants to pay 12 quid to enter a Zone.

As I don't want or wish to use our woeful public transport system or pay double the cost of purchasing a new electric car with no where to charge it then I just wouldn't bother visiting a town subject to a ULEZ Zone.

Tim.

 

[enuff_zed]

I am confused now.
I am assuming that they can't include the long stay parking areas in this or you'd get the fine before you got home?

 

[Nictrix]

Its a bit like the emissions tax, they dont mind as long as they are making money from it.
If they were that bothered there would be a blanket ban on certain vehicles and just not allowed at all into certain zones.

 

[ronk]

My main gripe is the type of vehicles Kahn uses!

A glowing case of do as I say not as I do!

 

[MikeyH]

The 'Brown Car Guy' on YouTube is campaigning to have it stopped. He has an old BMW.

 

[Mr Tidy]

It must be quite an old BMW then.

Even my 2002 E46 325ti would have been compliant as it was Euro IV and I'm pretty sure all Z4s comply - with the possible exception of Alpinas, but you probably wouldn't want to enter Khan's kingdom if you had one of those!

 

[ronk]

Is the ulez charge in addition to the congestion charge in London - i suspect the names give me a clue ! :rofl:

 

[Mr Tidy]

Of course it is!

Sadiq wouldn't have missed that additional revenue out. :evil:

The only positive is that you can enter the ULEZ without going anywhere near the Congestion Charge area as it's pretty central.

 

[Nanu]

I have no sympathy for Londoners. They voted for Khan.

Noticed yesterday that the Lloyds BMW garage I use in Newcastle is about 50 yards inside the clean air zone just inflicted on Newcastle by the Labour Council.

It only applies to a very limited number of commercial vehicles for now, but it's only a matter of time.

 

[Mr Tidy]

I have no sympathy for Londoners. They voted for Khan.

That's true, but there are plenty of people outside the ULEZ who didn't get to vote but have to go there.

My Mum passed away in 2020 but for the previous 10 years I was visiting her regularly as her taxi service and more often latterly as a part-time carer. She lived in a London Borough but thankfully it hadn't been extended then. My sister still lives in a London Borough - neither of them would have voted for Khan!

 

[Nictrix]

I have no sympathy for Londoners. They voted for Khan.

That's true, but there are plenty of people outside the ULEZ who didn't get to vote but have to go there.

My Mum passed away in 2020 but for the previous 10 years I was visiting her regularly as her taxi service and more often latterly as a part-time carer. She lived in a London Borough but thankfully it hadn't been extended then. My sister still lives in a London Borough - neither of them would have voted for Khan!

It's not just about London though. These LEZs are being introduced all over the place.

 

[sars]

It was Boris that introduced the ulez, but left office before it came into force, however that’s really a mute point because after the supreme court ruling forced the Government’s hand into action, culminating with the introduction of the clean air zones in our major cities earlier this year. These clean air zones charge for diesel vehicles below euro six and petrol below euro four emission standard

Whilst it does penalise the least well off, we do need to improve the air quality of our cities for everyone’s sake, so it would be fairer if the scrapage incentives were better. I’m sure that I’m not alone when I see some old diesel spewing black soot and thinking that shouldn’t be on the road.

 

[Mr Tidy]

It's not just about London though. These LEZs are being introduced all over the place.

You're right, but that one probably grabs the headlines because of the area it is about to cover and the number of people living in, or near to, it.

It's just the first of many sadly.

A month or so ago I went around the outskirts of Bradford and saw signs for a Clean Air Zone. So I looked it up when I got home and it didn't apply to private cars - yet!

 

[Nictrix]

The air in cities nowadays is probably the cleanest it's been in decades without banning older vehicles.
My old car was a 2010 3.0l diesel that wouldn't comply with LEZ. The inside of the exhaust tips were spotless all the time even when it passed 100k.

 

[ronk]

There are a lot of German inner city areas that require am “Umweltplakette” and it applies to residents and visitors alike.

At €13.95 it shows that the system is to regulate rather than penalise like our clowns seem to be doing.

 

[Mr Tidy]

Well the air is way cleaner in London that's for sure!

Back in the 80s I used to travel in by Tube occasionally and when I got home and blew my nose the tissue looked pretty disgusting.

My MC is compliant for now, but my exhaust tips don't stay shiny for 1,000 miles. :lol:

 

[MikeyH]

Cabbies will be charging the ulez charge on top of their fare to go to Heathrow Airport, sad but someone has to pay and it’s always the customers. :thumbsdown:

 

[MikeyH]

Am I wrong, it seems to be Labour councils that are pushing Ulez etc, shouldn’t they be helping the poor and hard up oke:

 

[Ole gits rule]

Pay per mile is next, just wait until the revenue drops, it will come.

I also think this is going to kill councils, people who act as carers to elderly relatives are now going to have to pay £12.50 per day to do this, councils will have to start taking this on now.

I have no issue in trying to save the planet but this is about revenue not air quality - this will cost labour the next election if they are not careful.

I do wonder if an appeal will come from the councils.