Tyre choice advice?

I dont plan to ever take the car on a track. Just legal driving on the roads. (Some twisty 50mph roads can be fun)


If your stated aim is road based driving in the UK a tyre with good cold weather performance and coping with damp/wet roads IMHO should be your focus..

Massive difference between track usage and even the most spirited of hooning..
 
B21 said:
a tyre with good cold weather performance and coping with damp/wet roads IMHO should be your focus
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Absolutely, which is why I am trying to find something that gives me the grip in all likely UK weather conditions. If the PS4S sacrifices wet handling for better track performance then its not the tire for me, perhaps the PS5 is?

I have used all-season tyres on other cars in the past but they sacrifice too much dry handling for better handling in rain and snow. Am I looking at the wrong sort of tires?

I am all ears for any suggestions of tires that will give the best grip in the range of UK weather (except snow and ice which I wont be driving in)
 
Gebbly said:
Absolutely, which is why I am trying to find something that gives me the grip in all likely UK weather conditions. If the PS4S sacrifices wet handling for better track performance then its not the tire for me, perhaps the PS5 is?

I have used all-season tyres on other cars in the past but they sacrifice too much dry handling for better handling in rain and snow. Am I looking at the wrong sort of tires?

I am all ears for any suggestions of tires that will give the best grip in the range of UK weather (except snow and ice which I wont be driving in)
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I have the PS5 and it is great for that. Bit of caution though, despite being quite good in adverse conditions, it will be nowhere near as good as a winter tyre or all-season when it get close to and below freezing but I personally consider it safe compared to the PSS I had before which was trying to kill you.
 
axelleveau said:
I have the PS5 and it is great for that
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Thats great to hear, thanks [ref]axelleveau[/ref]. I'm not to worried about the snow and below freezing as the car will stay put in those conditions. Sounds like the PS5 is probably the tire for me then.
 
Gebbly said:
B21 said:
a tyre with good cold weather performance and coping with damp/wet roads IMHO should be your focus
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Absolutely, which is why I am trying to find something that gives me the grip in all likely UK weather conditions. If the PS4S sacrifices wet handling for better track performance then its not the tire for me, perhaps the PS5 is?

I have used all-season tyres on other cars in the past but they sacrifice too much dry handling for better handling in rain and snow. Am I looking at the wrong sort of tires?

I am all ears for any suggestions of tires that will give the best grip in the range of UK weather (except snow and ice which I wont be driving in)
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PS5 is a good balance for you based on what you've said :thumbsup:

Just answering the all season question, I run Michelin cross climate 2s on another daily. Have done for several years, for something that sees everything they are unbelievably good and hold up well in summer. I wouldn't fit them to a high performance vehicle in summer though you'd be disappointed.
 
plenty said:
Gebbly said:
Given there are several people who have tried these tyres, could I ask how you think they handle wet conditions? Are the more track oriented tyres like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and the Goodyear SuperSport better or worse in the wet than tyres like the Michelin Pilot Sport 5? Do they sacrifice wet handling for better track performance?
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The PS4S and SS aren't really track tyres. They would stand up to a few laps better than the PS5 and Asymmetric 6, but wouldn't handle sustained track use at full pace.

Think of them as UUHP road tyres compared with the UHP of the PS5 and Asymmetric 6, with slightly better dry performance and comparable wet performance.
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Done several days on PS4S, never had an issue with the right pressures, geo etc they've handled the heat very well. Tend to do 20/25 minute sessions.

They are no cup2 I know that, just saying they'll do days easily if you manage them :thumbsup:
 
Getting my Goodyear Asymmetric 6s fitted Friday. Will give you an update as soon as I can
 
ed80 said:
Tyrereviews has a great comparison of the F1 Supersport and the 4S here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFdBXwWc9w
and a wider comparison here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQsWlZoh55U

Based on what I have read, I would go for the Eagle Supersports if you mostly drive in the drive in the dry (ie it's a weekend car), or the Pilot Sport 4s if you use it as your daily.

The Pilot Sport 5 is a tier lower in performance, but will have better comfort and be a bit quieter, so if you want a cruiser/gt rather than a sports car then that might be the best. The P Zero, the Yokohama, and the Sport Contact 3 are pretty old tech now, and I wouldn't (personally) consider Toyos for an M car.

What do you have on the front? I would be wary of having something wildly different on each axle.
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Thanks for this. Based on the YouTube review I have gone for the Goodyear Asymmetric 6s which fitted my criteria. Getting fitted tomorrow.
 
I don’t think you’d find the PS4S lacking in wet weather performance, or the Goodyear SS for that matter.

I went from an older Goodyear asymmetric to the SS a few years back and felt it was an improvement in all areas (other than ride comfort which was slightly worse). I was out last weekend in 4/5 degree temperatures on patchy, damp surfaces and although I had to be aware of the conditions, I never felt overly hindered by the tyres.

All that said, it’s shades of grey at this level of tyre with minor compromises in one direction or the other. None will be winter weather masters and none will sling you off the road if you haven’t warmed them up.

Edit: just noticed you’ve chosen the GY A6. I was very happy with my old A2s, they carried me up some dodgy, snowy roads and round the Nurburgring so I’m sure they’ll do you well. The only problem I had with them is that they aged out after 5/6 years and made hard acceleration ‘an experience’!
 
beanie said:
I don’t think you’d find the PS4S lacking in wet weather performance, or the Goodyear SS for that matter.

I went from an older Goodyear asymmetric to the SS a few years back and felt it was an improvement in all areas (other than ride comfort which was slightly worse). I was out last weekend in 4/5 degree temperatures on patchy, damp surfaces and although I had to be aware of the conditions, I never felt overly hindered by the tyres.

All that said, it’s shades of grey at this level of tyre with minor compromises in one direction or the other. None will be winter weather masters and none will sling you off the road if you haven’t warmed them up.

Edit: just noticed you’ve chosen the GY A6. I was very happy with my old A2s, they carried me up some dodgy, snowy roads and round the Nurburgring so I’m sure they’ll do you well. The only problem I had with them is that they aged out after 5/6 years and made hard acceleration ‘an experience’!
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I think the OP is favouring the PS5
 
I’ve always found the Michelin performance tyres get a little scary below 7 degrees.

If you can hide the receipts from your other 1/2, suggest get a 2nd set of cheaper alloys shod with cross climates for winter & save the quality alloys with CUP2’s for summer months.
 
GJ1 said:
I think the OP is favouring the PS5
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Yes, it feels like the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 suits my usage and its available in both my front and rear size so I can get matching fronts when they need changing. Also, being currently on Pilot Sport 4 on all 4 tyres, I think I can get away with just changing the rears for the moment if I go with Pilot Sport 5.
 
I think any current premier summer tyre that’s available in a front/rear staggered set will be leagues ahead of the outdated (even at the time) Continental SportContact M3 that the car originally came with.

I’d be happy fitting any of the below…
  • Continental SportContact 7 or PremiumContact 7
  • Michelin PS5
  • Goodyear F1 Eagle Assy 5 or Assy 6 or F1 Supersport
  • Bridgestone Potenza Sport
  • Hankook Ventus Evo 3
  • Vredestein Ultrac / Ultrac Pro
  • Pirelli PZero PZ4
  • Falken Azensis FK520
 
Gebbly said:
A late contender has popped up. The Bridgestone Potenza Sport. Sounds like it could be good for road. I need to do more reading on wet and dry road performance on this and the PS5. Anyone tried the Potenza Sport?
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I've got them on my Volvo with 20" wheels. They replaced the original Michelin PS4. They have more grip and less road noise. They are a bit softer. They aren't a bit down on tread depth from new, but they do seem to be lasting well and wearing equally.

I rate them as one of the better road tyres. I also got a really good deal for them at the time.
 
Running PS5 tyres here in stock sizes, surprisingly grippy in recent cold conditions, you had to be a berk to light them up :driving: :P

Comfort, noise and steering feel all decent to me, previously I had PS4 and whilst hard to compare old to new, the tyre design looks to borrow from the PS4S learning.
 
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