Trip planning with COVID-19

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To address the elephant in the room, I wondered what people’s views are on the forum’s upcoming trips and meetings?

Given that I suspect many of the forum’s members who enjoy trips and meetings are in the upper two quartiles motoring age wise, maybe even in the final quartile and therefore, according to current predictions are more susceptible to more extended complications from this virus, I was wondering were, what, if, how we go forward?

Clearly sitting in your convertible top down will probably offer low risks from the virus but when we people meet, shake hands, have lunch etc then...
 
Fair point Peter,
I have given this some thought , and being in the upper age bracket i do have some concerns,
Looks like its inevitible to get worse so prob no handshakes from me, also evening meets at hotels and lunch i may decide not to attend these ,but will decide nearer the time ie day before.
I shall however be in the driving seat ,top down ,assuming of course i have not caught it already.
Could be a return to flask n butties for lunch enjoyed in the car.
M
 
I have been giving this a lot of thought as well. Particularly with regards to Yvonne who was severely ill with pneumonia late last summer and has other “underlying health issues “ which put her at greater risk. I spoke to the NHS today and they confirmed that she comes under their category 1 for people at most risk. They also said to carry out the advice given publicly, ie hand washing etc and to carry on as normal.
So after discussing this together we believe that we should carry on as normal, but taking greater care with hygiene, meeting people etc.
The top and bottom of it, is that we are looking forward to these trips and unless the government introduces a nationwide lockdown, or the organisers of the trips feel it’s inappropriate to carry on, we intend to go and enjoy ourselves.
We look forward to seeing those of you going soon. :thumbsup: :driving:
 
MerBrook said:
I have been giving this a lot of thought as well. Particularly with regards to Yvonne who was severely ill with pneumonia late last summer and has other “underlying health issues “ which put her at greater risk. I spoke to the NHS today and they confirmed that she comes under their category 1 for people at most risk. They also said to carry out the advice given publicly, ie hand washing etc and to carry on as normal.
So after discussing this together we believe that we should carry on as normal, but taking greater care with hygiene, meeting people etc.
The top and bottom of it, is that we are looking forward to these trips and unless the government introduces a nationwide lockdown, or the organisers of the trips feel it’s inappropriate to carry on, we intend to go and enjoy ourselves.
We look forward to seeing those of you going soon. :thumbsup: :driving:
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We will have to place you two on your own table for the next breakfast meet Tim :wink:
Keep safe mate
 
I agree with what both AlienZed and MerBrook have said but also I am quite concerned what may happen over the next few weeks. At this moment in time I am going ahead with the N.Wales Run, however if we go into 'lock down' or the Premier Inn and/or lunchtime pub close then I will have no choice but to cancel it :(
 
As much as I'm looking forward to getting to events and meeting some forum members, my view is that all trips and events occurring soon should be cancelled or postponed. It's sad, but it's non-essential travel. If, for example, there was a breakdown or accident and emergency services were required there would be closer contact and, in the coming weeks, those services may be stretched extremely thin anyway. I'm sure everyone would follow distancing recommendations, but I for one would feel terrible if I attended something believing I was fine then became sick and others did, too. I would be questioning, no matter how unlikely, whether I'd been asymptomatic and caused someone else to get ill.

I currently take my cars out for the occasional solo drive and am about to try out Shell's pay at the pump to avoid another source of contact. However, I suspect that I'll be doing even that less and less. It might end up being the minimum necessary so that I'm sure the cars are working and able to take me or someone in need to a hospital, should it be required. :(
 
I'd suggest a common sense approach would be to postpone/cancel any social meet-ups and events. I'm pretty sure that's the official advice now given too (?)
I had a few things organised for this weekend but have cancelled both - my 50th birthday bash and a group bike ride (15 riders).

It's suggested in the following study that smaller Covid19 virus particles held in aerosol (sneeze droplets) can linger in still air for up to 9 days.
That's enough for me to do the responsible thing and cancel everything.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200320192755.htm
 
I ve had to cancel both my overseas Europe bike trips this year, thought it was going to be a staycation bike trip instead and do the North Coast 500 but that now looks unlikely, its going to be stay in and Netflix binge and doing up the house this year.
 
I doubt there will be anywhere to park even if a trip goes ahead, the weekends events have almost certainly closed off all areas and I doubt you’d even get into closed pub car parks, everything will have barriers across Id think. It’s game over for the forseeable.
 
Chris_D said:
I'd suggest a common sense approach would be to postpone/cancel any social meet-ups and events. I'm pretty sure that's the official advice now given too (?)
I had a few things organised for this weekend but have cancelled both - my 50th birthday bash and a group bike ride (15 riders).

It's suggested in the following study that smaller Covid19 virus particles held in aerosol (sneeze droplets) can linger in still air for up to 9 days.
That's enough for me to do the responsible thing and cancel everything.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200320192755.htm
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I have to agree with Chris on this. It is just too easy to catch this deadly virus. Either stay at home or go out with only those you live with until this thing is defeated. That is going to be harder for some than others, but it is what we MUST all do........... :!:

Alternately kid yourself it is not going to happen to you and carry on. You might get lucky. :poke:
 
buzyg said:
Chris_D said:
I'd suggest a common sense approach would be to postpone/cancel any social meet-ups and events. I'm pretty sure that's the official advice now given too (?)
I had a few things organised for this weekend but have cancelled both - my 50th birthday bash and a group bike ride (15 riders).

It's suggested in the following study that smaller Covid19 virus particles held in aerosol (sneeze droplets) can linger in still air for up to 9 days.
That's enough for me to do the responsible thing and cancel everything.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200320192755.htm
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I have to agree with Chris on this. It is just too easy to catch this deadly virus. Either stay at home or go out with only those you live with until this thing is defeated. That is going to be harder for some than others, but it is what we MUST all do........... :!:

Alternately kid yourself it is not going to happen to you and carry on. You might get lucky. :poke:
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Hi I'm sure the poke was meant in dry humour.. :thumbsup:

I think there are a few truisms that many people haven't grasped.

You don't know if you are infected whether you are going to be in the 4/5 not too bad or 1/5 potentially life threatening.

Of the 1/5 1/2 will require significant hospiital intervention and 1/2 those will need life support.

There are only 7,000 life support systems in the UK..taking around 7-14 days to stabilise a patient.

So say the virus ran unchecked and say for simple maths it took 6 months to go through the population and it was a linear event, unlikely but to keep the maths simple. Say the virus normally ran its course in 14 days.

So 64m people / 26 weeks = 2.4m per week infected..so that's 240,000 requiring medical intervention and 120,000 requiring life support.

So once the first 7000 have used up the life support then that leaves 113,000 per week likely to die..

of course if you have 240,000 people requring hospital support and only 140,000 total beds, plus all those other people with other illnesss its a train smash!

Or if you reverse the maths, with 7,000 acute beds, with 1 in 20 requiring their support it means you can only have 140,000 people infected at any one time before the system is completely broken and given existing cancer /stroke/heart/RTA patients not even that!
 
On Saturday I cancelled our roadtrip to Scotland via the Lake District in around 7 different properties planned for this coming weekend...

It was 9 days going via Glencoe, Skye, Cairngorms in different B&Bs/hotels - they were all still open (except 1 in the Yorkshire Dales that was forced to close on the way back)

Seeing the selfish & arrogant carelessness of a largish minority last weekend I called each place to discuss - they were all absolutely brilliant & tentatively agreed to postpone to 2021 where they could

I would have been happy to go, but it’s irresponsible at this present time & the last thing I suggest any of us would want is our mug shots on the news or on a FB hate page with a self righteous keyboard warrior finger pointer
 
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