Train drivers striking over pay
- Thread starter Dark Diggler
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Attleborough, Norfolk
If it works in other countries, tried and tested then why not try it here. Simple, the unions won't allow it. Technology moves on but in most cases unions don't. Protect jobs regardless.
As I have alluded to before, this is not about the workers it politically motivated. Like the miners before them the employees are being exploited for political means and like those times, this won't end well.
As I have alluded to before, this is not about the workers it politically motivated. Like the miners before them the employees are being exploited for political means and like those times, this won't end well.
As Smartbear said statistics can be made to prove anything you want. In the case of numbers of accidents however it depends on what each country classes an being an accident for recoding purposes. What may be recorded as an accident in Germany may not be over here. Lies, damn lies and statistics as the saying goes. You can only compare like with like.Pondrew said:Rob. Did we have the fewest accidents because not many trains moved, due to industrial action?
Asking for a friend..
Devon
Junior doctors (who have tens of thousands of pounds of debt from funding a six-year degree and continue to accumulate debt through having to pay thousands to sit exams and complete compulsory courses) work far longer hours than train drivers with far more responsibility and stress but are paid much less. Perhaps junior doctors should strike. They could start by refusing to treat train drivers :evil:
pvr said:
I would have worked in the public sector for free, just for the pension TBH.
Too late for me, though, after working for 38 years and getting the lofty employer's contributions of zero. People who think the self-employed are all well off have no idea.
Luckily I'm not bitter! :wink:
Indeed not
Little do they know that if you want a pension of £1000 a month, you have to pay in £1000 a month for 30+ years.
I have paid into one of my plans £ 900 a month since I was 25. The projection I got at 55 was that it would pay less than £900 a month in pension and something like £500 a month for a longest living partner pension. Would have been better off not putting it in a pension fund and spend it … no golden pensions for the self employed :x
Little do they know that if you want a pension of £1000 a month, you have to pay in £1000 a month for 30+ years.
I have paid into one of my plans £ 900 a month since I was 25. The projection I got at 55 was that it would pay less than £900 a month in pension and something like £500 a month for a longest living partner pension. Would have been better off not putting it in a pension fund and spend it … no golden pensions for the self employed :x
Think I consider myself fairly lucky that working for Local Government the Pension scheme is reasonably decent which is allowing me to finish at 58 next April.
I wouldn't knock the train drivers, good luck to them I say, get as much pay as you can and if that means striking so be it. I wouldn't begrudge someone wanting more money regardless. No one has forced you on your career path it's your choice.
I kinda think when most people want to end it they usually throw themselves in front of a train
It's not like they can steer round them. A friends husband left being a train driver as they hit a suicide, he said something catches the eye, you hear the thud and its like an exploding tomato so yes they probably do earn the wage.
Tim.
I wouldn't knock the train drivers, good luck to them I say, get as much pay as you can and if that means striking so be it. I wouldn't begrudge someone wanting more money regardless. No one has forced you on your career path it's your choice.
I kinda think when most people want to end it they usually throw themselves in front of a train
It's not like they can steer round them. A friends husband left being a train driver as they hit a suicide, he said something catches the eye, you hear the thud and its like an exploding tomato so yes they probably do earn the wage.Tim.
I’m currently hurtling towards London Euston at 125mph on a Avanti Pendolino train. Do I think Train Drivers deserve there salary and a decent pay rise? Absolutely I do, if they f*#k up its there life and the lives of the 250+ passengers at risk. Privatisation of the Rail Industry was the cause of significant salary increases in the industry and before privatisation pay was poor, that’s why they had fantastic final salary pensions and free rail travel.
TitanTim said:
You do realise the consequences of that? Every pay rise for them means the ticket price goes up, less money for safety as they call it, less money for investment and we all have to pay for their greed.
As for the suicide side - think for a moment what firemen see, what nurses see and what the police see on a daily basis or what the general public see during accidents and jumpers from motorway bridges.
pvr said:
Would you say the average 48k salary of a train driver is a good wage?
End of the day whether it's rail fares, food, fuel everything is going up. I just don't blame workers wanting to keep pace with the standard of living.
Compared now to say a premier league footballer on obscene money for running round a pitch it puts it into perspective.
Tim.