Track Day @ Hullavington

BMWZ4MC said:
You were never going to keep up with the red Westfield, especially in the rain :P
I've been to Hullavington loads and it's always really good fun. The rain adds to the fun if you're not chasing lap times as you can hang the back end out at more sensible speeds.
They significantly shortened the start/finish straights a few years ago. Before they did I used to hit about 135-140mph heading down towards the hairpin by the pits. Thinking about it, that's probably why they shortened it :evil:
I love the video of the synchronised drifting although two guys drifting essentially the same car nose to tail as they passed the starting marshall were never going to get away with it :D
It was definately more fun in the wet :thumbsup:
 
GaryT said:
wilbo said:
Looks good fun. I just signed up to a day at Abingdon in a couple of weeks, can't wait. Did you lose much tread on the tyres as heard that airfield surfaces can be quite abrasive?
I can only comment on Hullavington as i haven't been to Abingdon yet hoping to very soon though, and tyre wear was absolutely minimal, my only advice is to keep and eye on brakewear :thumbsup:

Abingdon is more open and flowing, tending to follow the perimeter road and runways more without relying on cones so much. That means quite a few much faster corners than at Hullavington, so watch the offside front tyre for excess outer shoulder wear. Dialing in more negative camber before you go will reduce the problem but not solve it. You'll also find that the rears wear more on their inner edge with repeated hard acceleration, so check your tyres every time you've been out. Generally, I found road tyres on OEM suspension lasted 2-3 track days per set regardless of the type of track. With the coilovers and uprated ARBs I'm running at present, I've managed at least four or five track days on the same set of soft compound semislicks and they've plenty of life left in them. Hullavington and Abingdon aren't especially hard on tyres but in places the tarmac can be a bit broken.

Gary's comment on brakes is very valid. Standard road pads and fluid don't tolerate the high temperatures reached on the track terribly well. If you have time, change the pads and fluid in advance - I recommend ATE Superblue and EBC Bluestuff pads, but my Zed is mainly used on the track these days and doesn't see much road use. From my own experience, running out of brakes approaching a corner at 100mph isn't much fun, so slow down if your brakes get spongy or the pedal feel becomes inconsistent! If you leave DSC switched on, your car will rapidly overheat the brakes as it tries to rein in your exuberance. I had smoking pads on all four wheels after three gentle sighting laps with the DSC on, so switch it off every time and build speed as you build confidence. Also, make sure you do at least one cooling down lap at the end of each session on track - go round at a reasonable speed but back off early for corners rather than using the brakes. When you come into the pits, leave the car in gear or use chocks rather than the handbrake.

I'll upload some of my Abingdon and Hullavington videos too when I have a moment - I have a great one chasing a stripped out Clio Cup in my Westy......until he runs out of talent 8)
 
DanStarr said:
Do you take out insurance? Im guessing i can just turn up and watch so i know what to expect :oops:

I do for my Zed as it's cost me a lots of money and lots of blood and sweat to get it to where it is now. My Westy I don't as I've had it for 12 years and maintenance is dirt cheap so the cost per year of ownership has actually been very little. It will add perhaps £100 to the total cost of your day if you insure your car.
 
BMWZ4MC said:
GaryT said:
wilbo said:
Looks good fun. I just signed up to a day at Abingdon in a couple of weeks, can't wait. Did you lose much tread on the tyres as heard that airfield surfaces can be quite abrasive?
I can only comment on Hullavington as i haven't been to Abingdon yet hoping to very soon though, and tyre wear was absolutely minimal, my only advice is to keep and eye on brakewear :thumbsup:

Abingdon is more open and flowing, tending to follow the perimeter road and runways more without relying on cones so much. That means quite a few much faster corners than at Hullavington, so watch the offside front tyre for excess outer shoulder wear. Dialing in more negative camber before you go will reduce the problem but not solve it. You'll also find that the rears wear more on their inner edge with repeated hard acceleration, so check your tyres every time you've been out. Generally, I found road tyres on OEM suspension lasted 2-3 track days per set regardless of the type of track. With the coilovers and uprated ARBs I'm running at present, I've managed at least four or five track days on the same set of soft compound semislicks and they've plenty of life left in them. Hullavington and Abingdon aren't especially hard on tyres but in places the tarmac can be a bit broken.

Gary's comment on brakes is very valid. Standard road pads and fluid don't tolerate the high temperatures reached on the track terribly well. If you have time, change the pads and fluid in advance - I recommend ATE Superblue and EBC Bluestuff pads, but my Zed is mainly used on the track these days and doesn't see much road use. From my own experience, running out of brakes approaching a corner at 100mph isn't much fun, so slow down if your brakes get spongy or the pedal feel becomes inconsistent! If you leave DSC switched on, your car will rapidly overheat the brakes as it tries to rein in your exuberance. I had smoking pads on all four wheels after three gentle sighting laps with the DSC on, so switch it off every time and build speed as you build confidence. Also, make sure you do at least one cooling down lap at the end of each session on track - go round at a reasonable speed but back off early for corners rather than using the brakes. When you come into the pits, leave the car in gear or use chocks rather than the handbrake.

I'll upload some of my Abingdon and Hullavington videos too when I have a moment - I have a great one chasing a stripped out Clio Cup in my Westy......until he runs out of talent 8)
Thanks for that advice, really great. I have HEL lines, Textar E-pads and Castrol React fluid, hopefully that will be fine but will keep checking everything and not over do it. I did a couple of taster sessions in an mx5 but this will be the first time in the zed.
 
GaryT said:
DanStarr said:
Do you take out insurance? Im guessing i can just turn up and watch so i know what to expect :oops:
I didn't take out insurance and it feels low risk at the motorsport-events venue, if you dont want to drive then bring a crash helmet and £15 for a passenger pass and you can ride with me :thumbsup:
Are you sure Gary that would be brilliant :thumbsup:
 
MSE run very safe, well regulated days and their airfield tracks all have lots of run off. There are always people with a wide breadth of experience so you'll easily be able to find a bit of space to learn how the Zed handles before pushing a bit harder. The biggest problem will be resisting spending more and more money on modifications and track days :oops:
 
DanStarr said:
Are you sure Gary that would be brilliant :thumbsup:

Your welcome Dan, you'll find as the day goes on you get chatting to the other drivers and blag rides with them too :)
 
GaryT said:
DanStarr said:
Are you sure Gary that would be brilliant :thumbsup:

Your welcome Dan, you'll find as the day goes on you get chatting to the other drivers and blag rides with them too :)

Excited for this now will be good to see what its like then make an informed decision if its for me or not! Probably should'nt be watching a BMW crash compilation on youtube right now tho.... :rofl:
 
BMWZ4MC said:
I'll upload some of my Abingdon and Hullavington videos too when I have a moment - I have a great one chasing a stripped out Clio Cup in my Westy......until he runs out of talent 8)

It's a different camera from the last video I posted and I've mounted it higher on the car so you can see more of the track ahead and also see me heel and toe. The down side is the higher the camera, the more the impression of speed is reduced.

I had a little moment mid corner around 6.35 through taking the wrong line after a slightly later overtake, but it's nothing like the moment the Clio has at 10.35. I could see he was clearly going into the corner way too fast but I wasn't sure where he was going to go, so couldn't turn into the corner until he'd committed either to turning in or leaving the track! I spoke to him later and he wasn't sure where he was going to end up either :lol:

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Good to see a video of Abingdon :thumbsup: , I'm at Hullavington again next friday but want to give Abingdon a go pretty soon, it definately has faster corners, will make for some very cool powerslides :evil:
 
If it's this week, it looks like it's going to be a wet one so all the more tail out fun :thumbsup:
I haven't any more track days lined up at the moment, but we should try to meet at Hullavington or Abingdon later in the summer.
 
BMWZ4MC said:
If it's this week, it looks like it's going to be a wet one so all the more tail out fun :thumbsup:
I haven't any more track days lined up at the moment, but we should try to meet at Hullavington or Abingdon later in the summer.
I'm out on Friday at Abingdon so I guess I will have that pleasure / apprehension of driving in the thunderstorms!
 
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