Topgear say new Z4 looks crap

Angelus666 said:
Your analogy to the dung beetle might not be too far off the designer thoughts....the Veyron was the most powerful car in the world, and in relation to it's size the dung beetle is not only the world's strongest insect – it's the world's strongest animal!

I think the flea is stronger, I don’t think one could kick a beetles arse but power to weight :P
Rob
 
Tinker15 said:
There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See. :D
Wait 'till you're older and that changes to 'There are none so frustrated as those that cannot pee'... :oldman:
 
PerryGunn said:
Tinker15 said:
There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See. :D
Wait 'till you're older and that changes to 'There are none so frustrated as those that cannot pee'... :oldman:

Over 70 now so I guess I’ll have to wait for the joys to come. :cry:
 
One comment summed it up quite well for me. It’s been “styled”, rather than “designed”. The fundamental shape is a bit of a lump and someone’s carved lots of fussy lines into it. Doesn’t look terrible, in my opinion - just disappointing and nondescript.

I hated the look of the E85/E86 when it came out. I still don’t think that the front looks very good, but the underlying shape is strong and opinionated and has aged really well. I liked the E89 design more at launch, despite the lardier arse, but then it soon became clear that it was aimed at a different brief, dynamically.
 
Tinker15 said:
Silverzedtom said:
Tinker15 said:
The E89 appealed to a different market and the G29 will be bought my a new clientele altogether.
Do you think? I can see a lot of current e89 owners chopping in for the new model. It looks like more of the same to me.

It doesn’t look like many on here will be rushing to the dealership either way :lol:

Some E89 owners may well buy the G29. But even when the E89 was such a superior car to the E85/E86 in every way I doubt many on this forum changed. They appear to be joined at the hip to their older cars. :roll:
You haven’t opened the boot? :poke:
 
Silverzedtom said:
Tinker15 said:
Silverzedtom said:
Do you think? I can see a lot of current e89 owners chopping in for the new model. It looks like more of the same to me.

It doesn’t look like many on here will be rushing to the dealership either way :lol:

Some E89 owners may well buy the G29. But even when the E89 was such a superior car to the E85/E86 in every way I doubt many on this forum changed. They appear to be joined at the hip to their older cars. :roll:
You haven’t opened the boot? :poke:

No problem for me. I was used to this:-
 

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Silverzedtom said:
Tinker15 said:
The E89 appealed to a different market and the G29 will be bought my a new clientele altogether.
Do you think? I can see a lot of current e89 owners chopping in for the new model. It looks like more of the same to me.

It doesn’t look like many on here will be rushing to the dealership either way :lol:
I actually think there would be more E85 owners would buy it rather than E89 owners. (Although not until they are under £10k)
With it being a soft top and going back to what "REAL Z" owners think a Z should be.
Most E89 owners probably bought the E89 specifically because it had a hardtop. I know we did.
 
Tinker15 said:
Zeld4 said:
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/z4-0

Surely it can’t be coincidence, enough people think it looks crap for it actually to look crap :D

More knocking from a fixated poster. And no the article does not say it looks crap.
I said it looked crap in case people didn’t understand the long words in the article.
 
Zeld4 said:
Tinker15 said:
Zeld4 said:
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/z4-0

Surely it can’t be coincidence, enough people think it looks crap for it actually to look crap :D

More knocking from a fixated poster. And no the article does not say it looks crap.
I said it looked crap in case people didn’t understand the long words in the article.

How very thoughtful of you to paraphrase for us illiterates
 
I think it comes down to taste and choice, the E85 looks did nothing for me when I was driving some of my other cars, but over time I feel it has aged really well and when I stepped into mine at 20,000 miles and nearly 13 years old you could have told me it was x demo if I did not know the history I would have been happy.
The other thing I know now is that reasonably powered,high revving, straight six, normally aspirated, manual box, three pedal roadsters are just just not going to be available new.
The reason I bought it was to enjoy the Old Skool, nothing wrong with BMW building cars for a wider audience. But I doubt they will develop a “following”
Mines gonna be a keeper!!
 
In terms of looks I think it’s great. Certainly better than the wishy washy looking last generation.

Not sure on all the interior gizmos though.
 
CRAIGO said:
In terms of looks I think it’s great. Certainly better than the wishy washy looking last generation.

Not sure on all the interior gizmos though.

Wishy washy, wishy washy! Another owner who should have gone to Specsavers. :D
 
Silverzedtom said:
Tinker15 said:
Silverzedtom said:
Do you think? I can see a lot of current e89 owners chopping in for the new model. It looks like more of the same to me.

It doesn’t look like many on here will be rushing to the dealership either way :lol:

Some E89 owners may well buy the G29. But even when the E89 was such a superior car to the E85/E86 in every way I doubt many on this forum changed. They appear to be joined at the hip to their older cars. :roll:
You haven’t opened the boot? :poke:
Or listened to the engine. :wink:
 
Well I have to admit that the sound from my straight 6 in the e89 isn’t a patch on the V8 in my TVR! :roll:
 
Tinker15 said:
Well I have to admit that the sound from my straight 6 in the e89 isn’t a patch on the V8 in my TVR! :roll:
Now come on, mentioning TVRs and V8s, that's cheating. :wub: :thumbsup: :-D
 
Zeld4 Could you please show me where on top gear it says the car is crap. It does say The Z4 has made a big step ahead. Mind you it kept, and improved, the best bit, And it also says this. The Z4 has changed. It’s become sportier – the old one, with its folding hardtop and cuddly dynamics, took aim mostly at the Mercedes SLK (now SLC). The new one has a fabric top, dropping the weight measurement and centre of gravity. It’s evidently having a pop at the Porsche 718, itself in a vulnerable position since the much-lamented departure of that old flat six
Ah yes, sporty. Hello internet, the ’Ring time is comfortably under eight minutes. The Z4’s physical dimensions are good for hot laps. The wheelbase is shorter than before by a huge 20cm, for agility. The track is much wider, for grip. The body is a whole lot stiffer than the old Z4’s, and it’s light.
If you don't like the front it says this. At the other end of the car, the jutting jowls are designed to help capture airflow and usher it past the wheels. If you don’t like it, well, lower-spec Z4s have a slimmer front bumper, and it gives 7/10
I don't think you even looked at what top gear said. You just don't like the car, I think you are an Audi driver and just jealous of us BMW drivers
 
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