Too Close for Comfort

That sucks for the poor people who got burgled. I was burgled once a few years back while on holiday. It wasn't the stuff I lost (I was insured so knew I could get stuff back) that hurt so much as feeling violated that some low life could just break in and take what they fancied. They never did catch them either :cry:
 
I agree we cannot allow that sort of thing, but it sure does make me smile and I have no sympathy for the burglar at all... they can all die as far as I am concerned
 
2dogs said:
Just found this about New self defence laws 2008.
Think the last one may have been a bit OTT :o



In practice, householders are seldom prosecuted if they harm or even kill an intruder but the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 will give them greater legal protection.

In one recent case, two burglars broke into a house armed with a knife and threatened a woman. Her husband overcame one of the burglars and stabbed him. The burglar died but the husband was not prosecuted. The other burglar was convicted.

However, in another example cited by the justice department, a householder was prosecuted after he laid in wait for a burglar who tried to break into his shed and shot him in the back.

Another man was deemed to have used excessive force and prosecuted after he caught a burglar, tied him up, beat him up, threw him into a pit and set fire to him.
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agreed the last one is a bit extreme :o
 
cj10jeeper, lucky escape indeed, thankfully it came to nothing, not so your poor neighbour though, this really annoys me.

I know someone (friend of a friend blah) who caught a burglar and by all accounts pulled out his front teeth with a pair of pliers. Knowing the person involved then I could believe it, don't suppose I'll ever know for sure though.

Bet the burglar does though :rofl:
 
2dogs said:
Just found this about New self defence laws 2008.
Another man was deemed to have used excessive force and prosecuted after he caught a burglar, tied him up, beat him up, threw him into a pit and set fire to him.
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I like that guy. They should give him a medal....
 
Shipkiller said:
2dogs said:
Just found this about New self defence laws 2008.
Another man was deemed to have used excessive force and prosecuted after he caught a burglar, tied him up, beat him up, threw him into a pit and set fire to him.
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I like that guy. They should give him a medal....
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MMM, roast burgler.....MMMMM

Anyways, my story (technically not my own) few months back my neighbor gets robbed while he is on vacation (me too at that time), I get home about 1030pm last night to see a cop car in front of my place. He was robbed again. I'm now ordering a camera system and probably will have an alarm installed sometime soon. Thinking about the same on the Z, but I kinda agree with another poster, if they want it, take it, I just hope they trash it and I get insurance money to buy a new one.
I haven't decided if I want to get to a gun or not. Here I think you have to prove your protecting a life, not property, if you shoot them.
 
Aebous said:
I haven't decided if I want to get to a gun or not.
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Oh my, judging by the amount of late night drunken posts you have made, you'd have a job even seeing the burglar, let alone shoting him LOL! :rofl:
 
I believe in personal protection but personally would not want to end a person's life if I caught them attempting to steal my property. That said, as mentioned earlier in the thread, criminals are unpredictable and who is to say they won't hurt you or your family.

My mother in law is a beautician and owns her own shop. About 10 years ago one night after closing up, three guys followed her home and as she was opening her front door, she had a gun to her head and he demanded the money. Oh, did I mention she has a CCW permit? She reached for the "money" and came out shooting. The guy ran around the corner where his friends were parked and they drove him to the hospital. In the meantime, she went inside and called 911, no police showed up at her house that night, but that's another issue altogether.

The next day the police showed up at her house to follow up and informed her the guy died and the others had been arrested. They had several guns and the police said they probably would not have left her alive. They told her she did the right thing but she was still very shaken up for a while. Now at 72, she still runs her shop and still packs heat.
 
mmm, dangerous move... you must admit that if YOU had someone in a position where you had a gun to their head there is no way they would get away with reaching for a gun without you shooting them first... don't get me wrong, I am glad she got one over him, but IMHO she was just lucky the guy was an amateur.
 
Much of what is described as "what I would do" in a confrontation is very much what people want to happen especially when it comes down to deadly force. I've take quite a few "gun" courses. I was taught within a few minutes an aspect of discharging a firearm in a closed area that hadn't entered my mind for a second. Take one scenario that can and does happen: mid-morning (say 4am) break-in that wakes you or sets off the alarm. Many think the best thing to do is to wait then go look for the intruder. Not the best situation to be in. Anyway, taking the advice of the course instructor: close the bedroom door (if possible), leave all lights off, make little sound, get behind the bed on the floor with a view of the door, have weapon ready for anyone that comes through the doorway. If at this point you know for certain this is an intruder, you have the right to protect yourself. Now here is what isn't expected: you fire off a few rounds in the direction of the intruder and first you are deafened. Anyone that has been trained in home invasion protection learns this. It is freakin loud. Then you are blinded slightly due to muzzle flash. It is my sincere belief that anyone that gets a gun for protection in the home should be required to take a professionally run course on the same. It may save a life.
 
You summed up my views entirely! Seems like there is a lot of "woohoo let's waste the motherf***ers!" sentiment, which is very dangerous and gives those who take it seriously a bad name. Let's hope you never have to be in that situation, but I agree, everyone who owns a gun should have to take one of those courses first.

20ducks said:
Much of what is described as "what I would do" in a confrontation is very much what people want to happen especially when it comes down to deadly force. I've take quite a few "gun" courses. I was taught within a few minutes an aspect of discharging a firearm in a closed area that hadn't entered my mind for a second. Take one scenario that can and does happen: mid-morning (say 4am) break-in that wakes you or sets off the alarm. Many think the best thing to do is to wait then go look for the intruder. Not the best situation to be in. Anyway, taking the advice of the course instructor: close the bedroom door (if possible), leave all lights off, make little sound, get behind the bed on the floor with a view of the door, have weapon ready for anyone that comes through the doorway. If at this point you know for certain this is an intruder, you have the right to protect yourself. Now here is what isn't expected: you fire off a few rounds in the direction of the intruder and first you are deafened. Anyone that has been trained in home invasion protection learns this. It is freakin loud. Then you are blinded slightly due to muzzle flash. It is my sincere belief that anyone that gets a gun for protection in the home should be required to take a professionally run course on the same. It may save a life.
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Fully agree that courses should be mandatory if owning a firearm! I had some more to add, but I will leave it at this point :)
 
The Caddyshk Home Defence System:

Ping 7 Irons - One behind every door - Louisville Slugger as backup.

For the Gun guys - always fire a second or third round into an opposite wall or ceiling "after" taking down the "suspect" - It's important to fire warning shots :thumbsup:
 
Caddyshk said:
For the Gun guys - always fire a second or third round into an opposite wall or ceiling "after" taking down the "suspect" - It's important to fire warning shots :thumbsup:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I've got think about the shots into the celing as I had a new roof put on last year... :P
 
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