Tires

based on my experience. Having different tires, front and rear will break the dynamic handling character of the Z. With regular cars, it seems to be OK.
 
On the never ending subject of tyres.

My trusted tyre fitters seem to be totaly against fitting non run flats for me. They say the alloys have a bigger groove for the thicker sidewall on the run flat tyres and a regular tyre could possibly move around on the rim.

Obviously many people here are running regular tyres without a problem, is there even a bit of truth in what they say?

Now I need to find a tyre fitter that will fit regular tyres and most of the ones in Darlington I wouldn't trust, it's a mixture of KwikFit :fuelfire: and back street independants staffed by intellectually challenged monkeys.

Can anyone recommend someone in Newcastle?
I've tried a couple of mobile fitters but they don't seem to do either town :headbang:

I'd like to get a set of F1 assymmetrics fitted and be off the bridgestones for good.
 
Good to hear that. I know loads of people here have changed to normal tyres yet tyre fitters keep saying it's not a good idea.

I'm having major problems now just trying to find a set of tyres. Goodyears and Continentals and even Falkens seem to be out of stock in 255/35/18 for the whole country :headbang: It's ridiculas and suppliers aren't sure when more Goodyears will be coming in stock.

I have on front tyre that needs replacing imediatly and I don't want to stick with Bridgestones, but I may have to if I can't find an alternative in the next couple of days :thumbsdown:
 
Is there a reason why as standard tyres for 18" wheels on the zed are 225/40/18 on the front and 255/35/18 on the rear.

Why are they wider at the rear? I am looking at putting 225/40/18 on all 4 corners as I have found a bargain for new Evo 2 wheels and tyres. Is there a problem with this and will my handling or safety be compromised if I don't have wider tyres at the rear?

I currently run 225/50/16 all round, so mine are the same width front and back.
 
I assume yours is a 2.0? (As IIRC they were the ones that came with 16's) If so, it's less powerful and doesn't need wider tyres to put down the extra power.

FWIW I'm not sure 255's are strictly necessary on the stock 3.0
 
Mattt said:
I assume yours is a 2.0? (As IIRC they were the ones that came with 16's) If so, it's less powerful and doesn't need wider tyres to put down the extra power.

FWIW I'm not sure 255's are strictly necessary on the stock 3.0


Thanks for the reply.

Mine is that rare old beast the 2.2 !

I am going ahead with 225's all round as I can't see any reason to go for 255's other than to cost more when replacing the tyres. Nobody seems to have any reason why 255's are necessary.
 
Wider in back will also help induce a little bit of understeer which most of the time is a Good Thing(TM) to keep us from a sudden move that will leave us looking at the direction we just came from out our windshield. A fully neutral handling car is actually quite a handful and not something we would really need as a goal for a daily driver.

Even out on the track when conditions are at least somewhat under a semblance of control it isn't a lot of fun to have the back end come out from under you in mid turn and find yourself looking forward down the track through the passenger side window. Understeer will help restrain that tendency from prevailing.
 
Well, Sunday I was coming back from a car gathering and missed seeing an object on the freeway and hit it with my front left tire. 20 miles later while getting gas, I noticed a crack on the tire. And of course, when I started the car up and pulled away, the low tire light went off. I had run flats with 21k miles. :(

Just now got back with a set of 4 falkens - 225 front, 255 rears. Really nice, noticable difference from the fun flats. :D I was concerned about the tire pressure moniters - I was told they were in the value stems. No. Not sure where they are, anyone know? (06 3.oi) After I started the car, the light came on, I hit the reset button and now all is well.

As they took off the tires for replacement, I was able to see that my rear tires were - well, more than bald (less than treaded?). So it definitely was time to replace them, though I had already decided to go for all 4. So now I don't feel so bad about spending $650 installed.

My thanks to this board - I did my research here first before deciding on the falkens, and referenced my wise old friend IMZ4N!!! :thumbsup:

Now I am looking for our next great ride! :driving: Guess I'll be waiting till after the wise one gets back from HC. :poke:
 
I just looked at my fronts and they finally are in need of replacement. The tread is still just above the wear markers, but they've suffered on the shoulders from hard cornering on the track, and the shoulders have feathered very badly! Not bad for about 25k miles, and plenty of track use though!

I've gone for the Goodyear Asymmetrics. They were a hell of a lot cheaper than the PS2s (£139 per corner instead of £220!). It does mean i'm running mismatched pairs front to rear at the moment, but the PS2s on the rear will probably be done fairly soon, and again, the F1 As are much better priced! Just hope I get the same performance from them as the Michelins!
 
cfmoorejr said:
My thanks to this board - I did my research here first before deciding on the falkens, and referenced my wise old friend IMZ4N!!! :thumbsup:

Now I am looking for our next great ride! :driving: Guess I'll be waiting till after the wise one gets back from HC. :poke:

Wise, OK.....OLD....???????.......

Pic will say it all. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

woopass02_attitude.jpg
 
Herminator said:
On the never ending subject of tyres.

My trusted tyre fitters seem to be totaly against fitting non run flats for me. They say the alloys have a bigger groove for the thicker sidewall on the run flat tyres and a regular tyre could possibly move around on the rim.

Obviously many people here are running regular tyres without a problem, is there even a bit of truth in what they say?

Now I need to find a tyre fitter that will fit regular tyres and most of the ones in Darlington I wouldn't trust, it's a mixture of KwikFit :fuelfire: and back street independants staffed by intellectually challenged monkeys.

Can anyone recommend someone in Newcastle?
I've tried a couple of mobile fitters but they don't seem to do either town :headbang:

I'd like to get a set of F1 assymmetrics fitted and be off the bridgestones for good.

I was told this at Kwik Fit in Eastbourne, this is why i'm considering ditching the OEM ellipsoids and buying a package deal with non RFT's. Any one know any more on this?
 
It is getting more common for garages to wimp out of fitting non-rft's. How's about we make a sticky thread listing all places in the UK, region by region, with garages that have said they will do it. Sound like a plan?
 
whilst we're on tyres:
I bought 2) Vredesteins.. £529 all round and love them.. very predictable, grippy, nice big lip over the alloys and sexy Guigario designed tread :thumbsup:

Because of:

EVO Magazine 2007 Tyre Test
The excellent guys at Evo Magazine have just published the results of their 2007 tyre test.

They scored each tyre in 5 categories - wet handling, aqua planing, braking, dry handling and a road test to judge comfort. They also back up the raw time data with subjective reviews on how the tyres felt which counted for 40% of the score.

The results:
1 ) Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
2 ) Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
3 ) Continental Contisport Contact 3
4 ) Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
5 ) Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
6 ) Pirelli PZero Nero
7 ) Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
8 ) Dunlop Sport Maxx
9 ) Yokohama S.Drive

If you'd like to read the full article pick up issue 110 of Evo Magazine.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre-test.htm
 
Bootlegdj said:
Herminator said:
On the never ending subject of tyres.

My trusted tyre fitters seem to be totaly against fitting non run flats for me. They say the alloys have a bigger groove for the thicker sidewall on the run flat tyres and a regular tyre could possibly move around on the rim.

Obviously many people here are running regular tyres without a problem, is there even a bit of truth in what they say?

Now I need to find a tyre fitter that will fit regular tyres and most of the ones in Darlington I wouldn't trust, it's a mixture of KwikFit :fuelfire: and back street independants staffed by intellectually challenged monkeys.

Can anyone recommend someone in Newcastle?
I've tried a couple of mobile fitters but they don't seem to do either town :headbang:

I'd like to get a set of F1 assymmetrics fitted and be off the bridgestones for good.

I was told this at Kwik Fit in Eastbourne, this is why i'm considering ditching the OEM ellipsoids and buying a package deal with non RFT's. Any one know any more on this?

I've had F1 Asymmetrics fitted to my 107 Elipsoids and have been very pleased with the result. The car feels a lot more 'planted' almost as if the ride is lower. Steering is heavier - good - and more precise. Still a slight vagueness around dead ahead, but not as bad as it was. @ £580 for a set at my local supplier. He did warn me though that there was a risk of damaging the rims taking off the rfts, and they were difficult but ok.

I'm afraid I don't undestand why ditching the Elipsoids is necessary.
 
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