Time for a change.....
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someone mentioned the spyder RS - this isn't an option simply , i cant afford 225k a car. ideally £150k is the limit.
Pondrew - the GT3 is just HUGE its grown into a LARGE car and for me the cayman is the sweet spot, i have to be honest im not fussed if its viewed as a poor mans 911 as im doing this one for me and the people in the know, will know what a 4RS is.... To me the GT4 RS is much more special and likely the ONLY modern RS product i will be able to afford in a much better mid engined driving package but still have the GT3 engine. Admittedly the GT4 RS simply doesn't look as good and well proportioned as a gt3, its a special and cool looking thing but is almost a lil OTT and somehow a touch unclassy, but i like the ridiculousness of it.
i got a REALLY helpful PM - he adds he feels i should keep and add to fleet if possible as the 4RS isn't a replacement more of an addition, my timeline is roughly the next 0-12 months, if i go towards the latter of that timeline i will more than likely be able to keep the z4m as well which is a completely different car so would mean a nice little diverse collection. Z4M Roadster - Clubsport build, GT4 RS coupe, Lotus engined Metro GTI - RETRO , and the Two dailies i run ( works Van is my everyday transport my old low mile mk1 tranny connect which is probably my fave out of them all and is just so comfy and useable
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Re colour to get the right spec, car and VAT qualifying one i may need to accept pretty much anything that comes up as long as the spec box are ticked and its not a NO NO colour which for me is red, white, bright green, bright orange.... anything else i will consider to get the right deal. Next up i think i need to spend some GOOD seat time in one. But i'm pretty set on this road now i think.
Dealer Thinks this car will be worth 250k in a decade, whats peoples thoughts? id NEVER buy a car to be a collectors item but the idea of it being a increasing in value asset does seem rather satisfying.
Pondrew - the GT3 is just HUGE its grown into a LARGE car and for me the cayman is the sweet spot, i have to be honest im not fussed if its viewed as a poor mans 911 as im doing this one for me and the people in the know, will know what a 4RS is.... To me the GT4 RS is much more special and likely the ONLY modern RS product i will be able to afford in a much better mid engined driving package but still have the GT3 engine. Admittedly the GT4 RS simply doesn't look as good and well proportioned as a gt3, its a special and cool looking thing but is almost a lil OTT and somehow a touch unclassy, but i like the ridiculousness of it.
i got a REALLY helpful PM - he adds he feels i should keep and add to fleet if possible as the 4RS isn't a replacement more of an addition, my timeline is roughly the next 0-12 months, if i go towards the latter of that timeline i will more than likely be able to keep the z4m as well which is a completely different car so would mean a nice little diverse collection. Z4M Roadster - Clubsport build, GT4 RS coupe, Lotus engined Metro GTI - RETRO , and the Two dailies i run ( works Van is my everyday transport my old low mile mk1 tranny connect which is probably my fave out of them all and is just so comfy and useable
) Re colour to get the right spec, car and VAT qualifying one i may need to accept pretty much anything that comes up as long as the spec box are ticked and its not a NO NO colour which for me is red, white, bright green, bright orange.... anything else i will consider to get the right deal. Next up i think i need to spend some GOOD seat time in one. But i'm pretty set on this road now i think.
Dealer Thinks this car will be worth 250k in a decade, whats peoples thoughts? id NEVER buy a car to be a collectors item but the idea of it being a increasing in value asset does seem rather satisfying.
flimper said:
did mention this to the dealer as the noise my z4m makes its absolutely annoying as hell now, it sounds incredible but i'm OVER super loud, i found this video rather interesting and wondered are the values dropping as people are finding these things useless on the road ??
https://youtu.be/jSLWQzTUwtA?si=SLf1rQ-uE5mymKts&t=169
Wayo11 said:Looks like decision made then! All that is left to do is pick the colour and donate your Z4M to my Top Gear challenge. Sorted!
Yeah its pretty exciting, i will keep this thread updated over the coming months as it will be nice to see it go full circle and actually get A car. nd who knows will if the timeline runs on a bit, actually get to keep the z4mr and add the gt4 RS to the fleet...... Nothing is off the table right now.
Caerdydd
Boyo said:
i think it will go up in time, its pretty much the last of this type of vehicle really but i'm not sure by that much..... they don't seem to be as popular as they'd hoped, ive got the auto trader tracker and they are ALL dropping and are now back at list. Too extreme for most maybe? the softer spyder is sky high and seems to be better received for being softer.
pvr said:
This is new territory however with the RS line up in the 718 model line... the 718 GT4 residuals seems solid BUT admittedly the 4RS is dropping quite quickly back to list ( which is why i'm even able to look at this , the bursting porsche bubble is extremely well timed) dealer reckons a drop will be coming for these for 18 months meaning people like myself have a way into a nearly new RS product that was once invite only and very scarce.
flimper said:
i think the spyder is going to hold value abit more..... but i could be wrong! i'm enjoying tracking them both on autotrader.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403267970516?sort=relevance&make=Porsche&model=718%20Spyder&postcode=b74%202ah&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra
Huge congratulations on getting to be in this position 8)
Personally, I’m a big fan of the ruby colour but it might be worth waiting for an interesting PTS one to come up. Not sure I have the same love for the RS spyder, it’s a cool car, obviously, but that roof is just ridiculous. The standard spyder makes more sense to me, at least from the perspective of being a car that you’d actually use.
Regarding keeping the M, if you can why not. On the other hand, would you ever use it with a GT4 RS parked next to it?
Personally, I’m a big fan of the ruby colour but it might be worth waiting for an interesting PTS one to come up. Not sure I have the same love for the RS spyder, it’s a cool car, obviously, but that roof is just ridiculous. The standard spyder makes more sense to me, at least from the perspective of being a car that you’d actually use.
Regarding keeping the M, if you can why not. On the other hand, would you ever use it with a GT4 RS parked next to it?
Personally I wouldn’t be doing anything right now, sit and see how prices fare this summer as I’m not sure these GT4 Spyders are selling, I’m pretty sure one of the first ones to become available still isn’t sold, wether that’s the state and uncertainty of the country right now, or folk are simply not willing to line someone else’s pocket to that extent for a very breathed upon Boxster when that kind of money will get you some pretty tasty metal elsewhere. I’m probably 99.9% wrong but I reckon the Spyder will drop to £150-170k by winter so around the build price plus £10-20k on top.
Never mind the future value or the “not a proper Porsche” or “poor man’s Porsche” rubbish. Using that logic, a Z4 isn’t a “proper Z” because it isn’t a Z8 and nobody would buy a car in case the value dropped in future.
After what you have been through health wise, plus the success you have earned through your business, you deserve to focus on whatever makes you smile when you look in the garage or turn the key in the ignition, whatever you decide to do.
After what you have been through health wise, plus the success you have earned through your business, you deserve to focus on whatever makes you smile when you look in the garage or turn the key in the ignition, whatever you decide to do.
At the summit of the picturesque fens
If you look at the used values of a Boxster or Cayman (Boxster Coupe) against a 911 of the same age, I think you will find the majority of the Porsche buying public agree with me. :scratchhead:Wayo11 said:
Porsche have made many models over the last 60 years. Only one is still made today. The original one. Therefore a 911 is a 'proper Porsche'. Simple.
The Cayman and Boxster were introduced to cater for a demand for a 'cheaper' Porsche sportscar.
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