This is why i don't do track days

Seen that a few times now, and still never worked out what happened. Looks like he comes over the crest too fast, brakes to hard and just locks the wheels. Impressive crash, but :cry:
 
Not funny, but I actually laughed at that.

Obviously, not funny for the owner and I dont really think its funny, but its also why I wouldn't take my own car on a track day, cos I would probably do the same (or drive so slowly and carefully it would be a waste of time!).

Do they give tuition for track days, or do you just get on with it? And what about insurance?
 
When I asked for insurance to do a simple parade lap at Silverstone last year Direct Line declined to cover me. I think you have to buy 'special' track day insurance, which probably costs a bomb, but I have no idea as I have never done it.
 
there is often a professional driver there that you can book and you can get insurance

I loved my times on track days both on bikes and in cars - and saw a couple of crashes - but nothing like that
 
Some insurance companys do include a preset amount of track days per year R.I.A.A is one of them

As an aside....there seems to be an unusual amount of accidents occuring in the vicinity of the 'Ring' but not on it :wink:
 
Accidents at trackdays are not as common as YouTube videos would imply.

I used to do 1 a month and in 10 years I only saw one incident where an ambulance was required.

Insurance is readily available. Some insurers will allow an extension on your road policy that covers track days - but it will affect your road policy if you have a claim. Otherwise you can cover individual days at about 1% premium with 10% excess (which you can also insure against).

There's no need to be scared as there's no one pushing you to go faster than you feel comfortable going, but it's a relatively safe place to find the limits of your car's and your own abilities.

Most reputable track day organisers offer at least one free instruction session with optional paid for extra sessions.

I've been off twice at Castle Combe and never managed to hit anything.
 
mmm-five, who would you go to if you'd just bought an ///M and wanted to learn how to drive it properly, in a safe environment ? Can you pay for 121 tuition on a track, and is it expensive ? Not that I am going ///M any time soon, but it is something I'd want to do if I got one. I live near Brands Hatch, so I guess they have instructors there...
 
slick said:
Some insurance companys do include a preset amount of track days per year R.I.A.A is one of them

As an aside....there seems to be an unusual amount of accidents occuring in the vicinity of the 'Ring' but not on it :wink:
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The problem with having an accident on the 'ring and claiming otherwise is that there's an official record of it. If you can get off the 'ring without the marshals noticing then you 'may' get away with it - but may have caused other accidents/deaths by not reporting your oil/coolant loss on the track :cry:

There's also a lot of photographers/videographers around the track, so even if you think you got away with it you may find a clip of your accident on YouTube and you'll end up with no insurance payout and possibly a bill from the 'ring for any damage/cleanup.
 
Bing said:
mmm-five, who would you go to if you'd just bought an ///M and wanted to learn how to drive it properly, in a safe environment ? Can you pay for 121 tuition on a track, and is it expensive ? Not that I am going ///M any time soon, but it is something I'd want to do if I got one. I live near Brands Hatch, so I guess they have instructors there...
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Brands Hatch will definitely have instructors, and will also offer 'novice' days / half-days.

The alternative is somewhere like Bedford, where you've got lots more run-off / room for error.
 
I rang around for insurance. RAC and Admiral were cheapest but you are not allowed to do track days with these companies. You can take out insurance for the day but both companies will void your insurance if they find out if you've even been on a track, never mind having a crash. The guy at RAC said that their underwriters look on people who do track days to be a higher risk on the roads so won't even give you the insurance for road use if you intend doing track days with insurance by a secondary company. Then they contradict themselves because they would insure my other car as it wasn't doing the track days. Same driver, dimwits :headbang:
 
Looks like about £600 for a full day 121 tuition on Brands Hatch Indy circuit. Pretty reasonable, as an investment against incompetence / overconfidence...
 
mmm-five said:
slick said:
Some insurance companys do include a preset amount of track days per year R.I.A.A is one of them

As an aside....there seems to be an unusual amount of accidents occuring in the vicinity of the 'Ring' but not on it :wink:
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The problem with having an accident on the 'ring and claiming otherwise is that there's an official record of it. If you can get off the 'ring without the marshals noticing then you 'may' get away with it - but may have caused other accidents/deaths by not reporting your oil/coolant loss on the track :cry:

There's also a lot of photographers/videographers around the track, so even if you think you got away with it you may find a clip of your accident on YouTube and you'll end up with no insurance payout and possibly a bill from the 'ring for any damage/cleanup.
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yes I can understand it wouldnt be easy to 'get away' with but it seems people do try to ( not me I hasten to add )
 
I don't see how an insurer can void your road policy for having non-road insurance elsewhere or for something your policy doesn't cover in the first place.

That would be like them saying they'd void your policy if you drive in the rain, dark, snow!

Sounds like they'd argue the toss over everything to avoid a payout, so I'd not touch them with a barge pole.
 
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