Thinking Of New Tyres, Advice & Help Needed

[R.E92]

The Ultrac Vorti is popular but there's a lot of talk about poor performance in the wet and high wear rates which makes the cheaper price tag less impressive.

The Pilot Sport 4S is still the king though. It wins nearly every test I've seen it entered into and I've had them on my car for a year and been nothing but impressed. I had Michelin Pilot Super Sport previously and I find the Pilot Sport 4S to be a little better in every way, most noticeably in the wet.

 

[Phoenixboy]

The Ultrac Vorti is popular but there's a lot of talk about poor performance in the wet and high wear rates which makes the cheaper price tag less impressive.

The Pilot Sport 4S is still the king though. It wins nearly every test I've seen it entered into and I've had them on my car for a year and been nothing but impressed. I had Michelin Pilot Super Sport previously and I find the Pilot Sport 4S to be a little better in every way, most noticeably in the wet.

And yet the recently posted tyre reviews uk suggest otherwise, and certainly on the wear rate.
I will be giving them a try.

 

[Jembo]

The Ultrac Vorti is popular but there's a lot of talk about poor performance in the wet and high wear rates which makes the cheaper price tag less impressive.

The Pilot Sport 4S is still the king though. It wins nearly every test I've seen it entered into and I've had them on my car for a year and been nothing but impressed. I had Michelin Pilot Super Sport previously and I find the Pilot Sport 4S to be a little better in every way, most noticeably in the wet.

And yet the recently posted tyre reviews uk suggest otherwise, and certainly on the wear rate.
I will be giving them a try.

Real world vs simulated.

I was highly abusive to my Michelins on my old 3.0SE & yet they lasted much longer than the Conti’s on my previous new A3 which was driven sensibly

 

[eff1guy]

The TCS works by looking for difference in the wheel speeds. If you up the diameter of wheels on an axle, the rolling speed will be different possibly making the TCS may be more prone to activating.

So just upping the rear profile changes your front to rear sidewall height by 13mm.

Yes, not a good idea to increase the rolling radius of only one axle for reasons others have mentioned.

The car will still work and you might not notice a difference but it will have an effect on the traction and stability control of the car.

Yes, I did the online tyre calculator at the time when I was searching for answers. My priority was to protect the rears from cracking and I was concerned about the issues of front rubbing if I went up on the front profile. TC doesn't cause me any issues that I've noticed over how it was on stock tyres

 

[markplant]

If you put the sizes in willtheyfit.com it will tell you the differences in speed

 

[eff1guy]

The Ultrac Vorti is popular but there's a lot of talk about poor performance in the wet and high wear rates which makes the cheaper price tag less impressive.

Had heard about the high wear rate on the Vred's but with my low mileage use, they'd be getting changed due to age and not wear.

 

[eff1guy]

If you put the sizes in willtheyfit.com it will tell you the differences in speed

That's the one I used and it was nominal in my eyes at -3%

 

[cowboyjon]

Just got my car at the weekend and it has Vorti's that are basically shagged on the rears with about 3mm tread left.

I was giving it the berries (considering the conditions) on soaking wet twisty roads on Saturday and the grip was fine. No hairy moments and trc only lit up once, briefly. Ambient temperature was around 10°.

The next day the sun was out and the roads were dry, with an ambient temp of around 13° and I headed for some twisties I know. The car was stuck like glue and I promise you I wasn't hanging about!

That's with worn out Vorti's so fresh ones will only be better and given that they are quite a bit cheaper than equivalents from the other big name brands I am struggling to find a reason why I would bother putting anything else on the car.

With all that said, I have had Dunlop Sportmax RT on recent cars and found them to be excellent and I fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 4s to my civic type r late last year and they were like super-glue in all conditions besides snow.

 

[buzyg]

Just ordered a new pair of rears, MPSS again my 4th set of Michelins. If it ain't broke.