Thinking Of New Tyres, Advice & Help Needed

The Vredstein seem to be well liked.
I’m leaning towards them when I ditch the run flats
Not literally I hope.
 
Yep, after reading lots of reviews here and elsewhere I went with Eagles, great grip in both wet and dry and will be using them all year round, couldn’t be arsed with summer/winter wheels tyres cost/combinations. Don’t intend using the car in the snow so sure they will be more than ok with a bit of common sense thrown in. Throughtly recommend.
Full set fitted £463 via Protyre
 
I agree, and I don't run winter tyres either.

Although it's worth noting that winter tyres outperform summers in any condition under 7 degrees c.

It's 7 degrees here at the moment, so even on a bone dry road the winters are going to be outperforming the summers.
 
Nick9one1 said:
I'll be buying new rubber soon as well.
Here's a comparison from tyrereviews.co.uk

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I think I'm going to go with the vorti's.

255 35 19
MPSS are £175 72 decibels
Vorti's are £125 70 decibels
Eagle F1 £125 69 decibels
SportMaxx £125 69 decibels
SportContact 6 £145 73 decibels
Rainsport £110 73 decibels

Where did you get the Vortis price?
 
Nick9one1 said:
It's 7 degrees here at the moment, so even on a bone dry road the winters are going to be outperforming the summers.

I thought that the 7C was road temperature, not air temperature?
 
Phoenixboy said:
Nick9one1 said:
I'll be buying new rubber soon as well.
Here's a comparison from tyrereviews.co.uk

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I think I'm going to go with the vorti's.

255 35 19
MPSS are £175 72 decibels
Vorti's are £125 70 decibels
Eagle F1 £125 69 decibels
SportMaxx £125 69 decibels
SportContact 6 £145 73 decibels
Rainsport £110 73 decibels

Where did you get the Vortis price?

Actually just found them for £215 here.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s337p111472/Vredestein_Tyres_Car_Vredestein_Ultrac_Vorti_-_255_35_R19_%2896Y%29_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_1_Noise%3A_70dB
 
djstan said:
Nick9one1 said:
It's 7 degrees here at the moment, so even on a bone dry road the winters are going to be outperforming the summers.

I thought that the 7C was road temperature, not air temperature?

You could be right! But at night the road temp is often lower than air.
 
It's 7 degrees here at the moment, so even on a bone dry road the winters are going to be outperforming the summers.
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Out perform, in what respect, caneing it around bends etc, I’m sure if you drive to the conditions all tyres are ok to a certain extent, winter tyres are better I would think, but most of the time under road legal speeds summer tyres are fine, anyway I hope so as I intend to use the car all year round on my Eagles (apart from black ice, snow conditions etc)
 
Consider the reason why the Michelin’s are normally the most expensive & people still buy them.

With 4 small bits of rubber between me & my maker, when I now buy new since 2010 I’ve bought nothing else & never regretted it.

HOWEVER, 7 degrees & below found their summer tyres become more dangerous the colder it got
 
+1 for the Vorti's here and have yet to find anyone beat Camskill in the years I've been buying tyres online

Oh and YES I stepped up the rear profile to 35 too as per recommendations on here
 
eff1guy said:
+1 for the Vorti's here and have yet to find anyone beat Camskill in the years I've been buying tyres online

Oh and YES I stepped up the rear profile to 35 too as per recommendations on here

Why only the rear? I was planning to up the profile on both, unless there is a good reason?

When stock the overall diameter is 25.5" at the front and 25" at the rear.

Going to 35 at the rear takes the diameter to 26"

I wondered if it would screw up the TCS if you change the ratio?
 
Nick9one1 said:
Why only the rear? I was planning to up the profile on both, unless there is a good reason?

Never came across any recommendations to up the front profile and I'm sure I read about a few that had, then had problems with rubbing at the front but I guess that depends what alloys you're running, I'm on stock 326M's. Hasn't caused me any problems with the TCS and don't see why it should :?
 
Don't up the front profile leave it 35, but if you increase the width to 235 from the standard 225 you do get a slight profile increase with no problems whatsoever and a better match to the rears.
 
eff1guy said:
Never came across any recommendations to up the front profile and I'm sure I read about a few that had, then had problems with rubbing at the front but I guess that depends what alloys you're running, I'm on stock 326M's. Hasn't caused me any problems with the TCS and don't see why it should :?

The TCS works by looking for difference in the wheel speeds. If you up the diameter of wheels on an axle, the rolling speed will be different possibly making the TCS may be more prone to activating.

Comparison of tyre size differences here;
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So just upping the rear profile changes your front to rear sidewall height by 13mm.
 
Yes, not a good idea to increase the rolling radius of only one axle for reasons others have mentioned.

The car will still work and you might not notice a difference but it will have an effect on the traction and stability control of the car.
 
After this, Ill think I will have a serious look at the Vredstein`s, I was very much up for the Michelins, but that's what you ask advice for,, now do I up the rear profile :headbang:
 
Busterboo said:
Vredstein? Not expensive enough.

In a very tight, very highly competitive market, let price be your guide.

You must have tried them on your E89 to offer such wisdom & insight :?
If i'm not mistaken you chose Pirelli for your own car :? why not follow your own advice :oops:
 
mr wilks said:
Busterboo said:
Vredstein? Not expensive enough.

In a very tight, very highly competitive market, let price be your guide.

You must have tried them on your E89 to offer such wisdom & insight :?
If i'm not mistaken you chose Pirelli for your own car :? why not follow your own advice :oops:

In about 2,000 miles, I shall. :) However, at the time, I bought the best I could afford and always will. Of all the regular expenditure on a car, tyres are the most important.
 
Busterboo said:
mr wilks said:
Busterboo said:
Vredstein? Not expensive enough.

In a very tight, very highly competitive market, let price be your guide.

You must have tried them on your E89 to offer such wisdom & insight :?
If i'm not mistaken you chose Pirelli for your own car :? why not follow your own advice :oops:

In about 2,000 miles, I shall. :)

Id wager very good money you would be impressed how good Vorti tyres are & i know from my own 35i ( remapped over 35is power) they are up there with any of the big names come sun , rain or even light snow .
I covered 260 Northern France miles last February through sleet & snow , i never once felt unnerved & a major plus for me with Vreds is they perform from the outset , you don't need to put much heat through to feel confident which is the opposite of the MPSS i currently have on my ZMR , very very skittish initially on anything other than warm dry tarmac & i can't see me tackling any winter miles with them like i did with the Vreds / pic here in the Dales last January
 

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