The jab ..

Poll Poll Will you take the COVID jab

  • Of course

    Votes: 158 79.0%
  • Hell no

    Votes: 18 9.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 11 5.5%
  • After results of first round are known

    Votes: 13 6.5%

  • Total voters
    200
Argyll Andy said:
Old-Duckman said:
those with immune deficiencies

As someone with an auto immune disease, non lifestyle related, I take extreme offence at that comment!!!!!!!!!!
Im Diabetic - so Im in the “hmmm undesirables“ league as well.
 
Z4C_er said:
ronk said:
I’ve just heard more fake crap about the vaccine - apparently it makes you sterile. :rofl:
Some Rabii said it made you gay!
I heard if your over 70 it cures your bad back, hips and knees,oh and you get a permanent erection.
Im booked in this friday :thumbsup:
 
AlienZed said:
I heard if your over 70 it cures your bad back, hips and knees,oh and you get a permanent erection.
Im booked in this friday
The permanent erection allows you to push open a door without using your failing limbs, or does it go more vertical than horizontal? Difficult to remember.
 
ronk said:
Argyll Andy said:
Old-Duckman said:
those with immune deficiencies

As someone with an auto immune disease, non lifestyle related, I take extreme offence at that comment!!!!!!!!!!
Im Diabetic - so Im in the “hmmm undesirables“ league as well.

Ron, I had to delete my first response because it would’ve been heavily :censored:
 
Argyll Andy said:
ronk said:
Argyll Andy said:
As someone with an auto immune disease, non lifestyle related, I take extreme offence at that comment!!!!!!!!!!
Im Diabetic - so Im in the “hmmm undesirables“ league as well.

Ron, I had to delete my first response because it would’ve been heavily :censored:

I can imagine - Diabetes is only a bit of an inconvenience by comparison!
 
Wife had the jab yesterday. She is just in her 50's but a key/ risk worker. Her and her colleagues all got the jab. She had the Pfizer one. Her boss had a choice the week before of Pfizer or Oxford and went Oxford. She didnt have that choice. Said she feels like having the flu jab today and arm is bit sore. Didn't feel the needle.
Colleagues Mrs is a social worker for the elderly and has now had both the jabs. Same as her colleagues too. She said they all felt a ' bit rubbish' after the second one. First wasn't too bad. I 'believe' it was the Pfizer one, but not 100% on that. All her colleagues felt similar from it, so not just her.
The Mrs must still use her ventilator at work for the next 12 days and not just the standard face mask, due to potential virus mutation if she contracts it in that time. She also got a sticky badge and a virus card. :thumbsup:
 
Guys you misunderstood my use of "undesirables". Not undesirable in my opinion but undesirable to society in general...a drain on resources. I believe that is how the Liberal/Progressive mindset sees such individuals. You may recall when obama was running for his first term when asked about health care for the elderly he said "...just give grandma a pill." Look it up. That my fellow Z drivers is their attitude and that was what I was referring to.

I was trying to say that those types are being categorized as a drain on society. Let them be first in line for the "jab" so we can eliminate them and have a virus to blame it on.

I hope all who got twisted by what they think I was saying will read this post. I do not want to be misunderstood and have you think that I think people who fall into those categories are undesirable !!
I guess if I had used quotation marks around the terms I might have been understood better...might have.

I don't feel that way about any human life, I am pro-life in every sense of the word (with the exception of those who have committed and have been convicted of a capital crime) in those cases I am fully in agreement with the death penalty.

I truly hope that clarifies what I was trying to get across !
 
ronk said:
I think “At risk” categories would have been acceptable!
I know you hate it when I use the word "they" but I don't think they simply look at those individuals as at risk. I truly believe that they want to eliminate such people. As I said, they look at those who afford them no benefit as Henery Kissinger called us, "useless eaters". You can look that up too.

Is there any argument that many so called "elites" feel that overpopulation is a major concern and want to reduce the world population. The first "command" on the Georgia Guide-stones is "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

Margret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood (the largest purveyor of abortion here in the states) started her evil scheme to eliminate those she thought were inferior, namely black people. Read about this lover of human life here if you wish https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/plann...admits-that-its-founder-was-a-horrific-bigot/

I know I'm beating a dead horse but there ARE evil people in our world who want all the power they can get their hands on and to those types we are....What was that again Mr. Kissinger? Oh yeah, "useless eaters".
 
You really ought to see the efforts that out NHS staff are going through to help people of ALL ages, colour or creed.
Some of them are working to near exhaustion and are physically and emotionally drained - none of them see us Oldies as a drain - There aren’t many doctors that would willingly break their Hippocratic oath to fulfil a political whim or ideology. None that I know.

Their efforts are going over and beyond and i would day you will be hard pushed to find any Brit who would criticise let alone any NHS who treat their patients as useless eaters.

I’ve seen them in tears. Genuine tears .
 
Nice to see/hear some sense at last.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/conservative-mp-calls-for-nationwide-rollout-of-vitamin-d-tablets/ar-BB1cLdqC
https://youtu.be/bQyhjQUjHjU
 
[ref]Old-Duckman[/ref],
My thoughts were, “hmmm undesirables“

Old-Duckman said:
Guys you misunderstood my use of "undesirables". Not undesirable in my opinion

No, not having that p!sh, first response MY thoughts, second response NOT in MY opinion, called out, now backtracking.

There were countless terms you could have used for the at risk groups but you chose to pick, and post, a derogatory one :thumbsdown:
 
Old-Duckman said:
just give grandma a pill

Nice try.....but to quote a has been....it's fake news.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/aug/03/dan-lungren/lungren-says-obama-would-have-government-require-c/
 
mgrlane said:
What makes me laugh is these studies (on the deficiencies of vit D+ Covid) have been widely available (albeit they were on Asian's subjects and not Black, White's for months). I wanna say April/May last year.
This is why I'm actually so vocal on this topic. I agree, the conversations about preventative therapies and medications have been brushed aside since this whole thing started. Even stirring up 'racism' as a factor as to why the BAME community are being hit, but the knowledge and evidence has been available for some time. It's truly disgusting. Why we can't have an 'out in the open' discussion that says, "look, people with dark skin just need more sunlight. You have a biological make-up that is used to being in warmer climates. Your bodies need more Vitamin D at this time of year than white skinned people". Simple fact, not racism.
The push for the vaccine has been so relentless that it raises suspicion, especially when there has been a knowledge of how to best prevent, treat or even greatly reduce the chances of dying from this disease.
It's been all about the vaccine from the start. For nearly a year I've seen countless offerings of ways to deal with this swept aside with such rapid waves of the hand that it beggars belief.
And your comment regards the old people is correct. Go to the ONS website and see the amount of people with Covid in care homes vs in Hospital. Truly shocking. What are they doing there? Surely the care home is the absolute worst place to have a Covid suffering old person?
 
rdgreen said:
Old-Duckman said:
just give grandma a pill

Nice try.....but to quote a has been....it's fake news.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/aug/03/dan-lungren/lungren-says-obama-would-have-government-require-c/
Politifact is in itself fake news. Read many of the articles yourself and take some time doing so. Scrutinise the wording. It's so heavily biased to the left. Even 'snopes' is going that way.
 
Just to take this discussion a little bit off-piste, but still on subject for a minute if I may:
All this talk about having the first four groups done by mid-Feb sounds really good, and anyone in the next batch of people will be beginning to get excited about getting theirs too.
But so far no-one has pointed out that at the 12-week point, all the first tranche will start coming back for their second jab. Unless the rate of jabbing people steps up substantially, that is not going to leave a huge amount of room for new people to get added in; and I would suspect the limiting factor is most likely to become the vaccine supply.
I know a lot of folk who are planning holidays based on them getting jabbed up by Easter. My words of caution are mostly met with eyes shut, hands over ears and shouting 'la-la-la' very loudly. :roll:
I guess time will tell.
 
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